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[squidgen]

Yay! The seal of approval!

In the other hand, that hugs and kisses elemental terrifies me.

[nanomage]

I'm afraid something is wrong with my vampirizer setup. I have the tigerlady walled of in a small room bordering the contaminated cistern, and the only tile she can drink from has the corpse of a vampire 1 z-level down. The tile is read with "Olon whatever's blood", and there are spatters on the walls, on the corpse and on the floor of the tile, but the tigerwoman has already drunk two times and never transformed. What is it I am doing wrong here?

[TheFlame52]

But how do you know it hasn't worked? It won't outright say she's a vampire, just like it won't outright say when one of your dwarves is a vampire. Let her loose in your fort and see if anyone turns up dead. Also, if you haven't slabbed the vampire, do it now.

[nanomage]

well she keeps drinking and eating and sleeping and the description of her physical attributes hasn't changed, so I figure she's still normal. Vamp's been slabbed of course. Perhaps you could link me to a save with or a description of a working vampirizer so that I could for flaws in my design.

[Di]

I remember there was some quirkiness in water and contaminants.  I believe the reason the well was used in the original setup because only it puts contaminants into drinked water.
I also remember some mentions about using the grates, something like that when creature drinks through floor grate, it licks contaminants on it.
It has been a while since I've read that so nothing is certain but that's your chance.
You'd need to create another dwarf vampire to stain the grate though.

[ImagoDeo]

I managed to get an entire dwarven fort successfully vampirized by having a pool of blood at the bottom of a well. I think a contaminated tile of water won't do - you need a well. Try excavating above the tigerlady's cell and building a well that dips into the spot; then get a dwarf locked in with just the well for beverage, and see if he transforms. Then you'll have a test case, and additional ammo for a new vampirizer if you need one.

On the other hand, I have no idea if you can get tigerlady to drink from a well...

[thegoatgod_pan]

Tigermen won't use wells.

[nanomage]

thanks guys
so my next steps will be to get a well up above the contaminated tile, obtain a few more dwarf vampires, then perforate them over an obligatory artifact grate each fortress seems to have and put that grate right above the contaminated tile in tigerlady's apartment. Looks pretty straightforward, surely nothing can go wrong!

[Di]

then perforate them over an obligatory artifact grate each fortress seems to have and put that grate right above the contaminated tile in tigerlady's apartment.

No, no, no. You need to put that grate above the water and then perforate vampire over it.

[Repseki]

Are you sure you have enough Vamp blood in the water to make it actually contaminated?

I haven't tried to make any Vamps in a while, but I remember it taking a lot more blood than I thought it would.

[nanomage]

then perforate them over an obligatory artifact grate each fortress seems to have and put that grate right above the contaminated tile in tigerlady's apartment.

No, no, no. You need to put that grate above the water and then perforate vampire over it.

That seems kind of non-trivial, because how exactly can I cause damage to a vampire stnding on top of the grate? making it wear steel helmet uniform and dropping copper spears from above seems feasible but maybe there are easier ways?

Are you sure you have enough Vamp blood in the water to make it actually contaminated?

I haven't tried to make any Vamps in a while, but I remember it taking a lot more blood than I thought it would.

I'm afraid I have to answer I don't know here. What ways are there to tell if the water has indeed become contaminated, apart from creatures drinking it becoming vampires?


EDIT: perhpas I can just drop the vampire 15+ z-level to ensure it blows apart on impact and spatters blood all over the place? Do reatures blow on impact when colliding with grates or does it require solid floor?