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[Rydel]

Is it possible to use a larger picture to display the workshop?
For example, a 48x48 picture instead of 9 16x16 tiles. Maybe in the end it'll be come a 2D version of stonesense.

Yeah, but I'm already satisfied with current features.

a 48x48 image is 9 16x16 tiles.  If you put a 48x48 image on a grid of 16x16 tiles, you'll see it takes up 9 of them, and you don't have to do anything extra for it to work.  Take my avatar for instance.  It was designed as a single 128x128 image, but the Super Nintendo treats it as 256 8x8 tiles (Well, technically 143, since it doesn't count the blank tiles).

So, I guess what I'm saying is, could you elaborate on what you want changed, because I'm not following you.

[utunnels]

Ah forget it.

What I mean is instead of replace the tiles of a workshop one by one, you use a single image for the entire workshop.
For example, a still has two o tiles and two ~ tiles, but I don't want those parts to be identical.  If there a 3x3 area in the texture atlas, maybe I can write something like [OVERRIDE::B:STILL:::3:56:3x3]

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÷═╕
o ~
~ o
Or maybe a more simple solution, just use the position instead of tile index. For example, the upper left tile is 0,0, and the lower right tile is 2,2.

[utunnels]

Oh I got another question: what are tile types for insect colonies? Currently they look exactly the same as wells.

[mifki]

What I mean is instead of replace the tiles of a workshop one by one, you use a single image for the entire workshop.

I don't know yet what the configuration will look like when I implement multi tile building overrides properly.

Oh I got another question: what are tile types for insect colonies? Currently they look exactly the same as wells.

Vermin are stored separately from tiles/buildings/items (and units), so currently you can't override tiles for this type of things.

[mifki]

Not sure how all this will be configured though.

A brilliant idea came to my mind - there will be no configuration at all! I will hardcode all the buildings and items (+support for custom workshops, item subtypes, etc.) together with some of their variations. These combinations will have names and you will just provide separate images like

data/art/tiles/door.png
data/art/tiles/door-locked.png
data/art/tiles/chest-empty.png
data/art/tiles/chest-full.png
data/art/tiles/bed.png
data/art/tiles/bed-dorm.png

and so on. That's easier for me to develop and for you to customise/install (for example images may be of any size, you can just drop whatever image files you want, no need to squeeze them into a single tileset image).

And also, any of these files will possibly contain several images for animation. Here, some spinning doors:

[PeridexisErrant]

Hmm. I might need to reorder PyLNP graphics code so we can have a default set, but overwrite the specific graphics pack... Minor change only.

Yep.  A simple fix to allow dirs as well as files, and avoid overwriting a file supplied by the graphics pack.

[utunnels]

Yeah, sounds good to me.
Does the tiles have to be 16x16 or we can still specify their size?

[mifki]

Hmm. I might need to reorder PyLNP graphics code so we can have a default set, but overwrite the specific graphics pack... Minor change only.

For pylnp yes, but for example if someone makes a new image for a workshop (and once it's that easy I hope more people will create custom building graphics), they will just need to upload one or two files and you download to that folder. While currently it has to be a whole tileset plus overrides spec that you need to add to your overrides.txt

[mifki]

Yeah, sounds good to me.
Does the tiles have to be 16x16 or we can still specify their size?

Tiles have whatever size you zoom to.
For a 3x3 workshop you create an image of any square size, it will be automatically split into 9 pieces and resized to match your current tile size. If you provide a rectangular image instead, it will use its height to extract multiple square images and use them for animation.

[mifki]

Ouch, for workshops there still will have to be a separate configuration somewhere - which tiles you want to be transparent, and what colours to use for each tile.

[Dirst]

Ouch, for workshops there still will have to be a separate configuration somewhere - which tiles you want to be transparent, and what colours to use for each tile.

Can you use alpha channels for transparency and multiple images per building?  Image 0 is colored as-is, image 1 is tinted by the first building material, image 2 is tinted by the second material, etc.  Keep that cool rectangular thing for animations.  Just puts a bit of work on the artist to make sure things layer properly... you just need to provide a deterministic order in which the images are layered.

[Rose]

there isn't /that/ many buildings that use multiple materials, though. Off the top of my head, it'd only be useful for blacksmith and wells

[Dirst]

there isn't /that/ many buildings that use multiple materials, though. Off the top of my head, it'd only be useful for blacksmith and wells

In vanilla, but I wouldn't want to make assumptions about mods.  In my particular mod the custom buildings are made from three blocks of the same material, but others' might be more complicated and like to see that reflected on the screen.

[mifki]

there isn't /that/ many buildings that use multiple materials, though. Off the top of my head, it'd only be useful for blacksmith and wells

In vanilla, but I wouldn't want to make assumptions about mods.  In my particular mod the custom buildings are made from three blocks of the same material, but others' might be more complicated and like to see that reflected on the screen.

Well I was talking about a different thing. In vanilla buildings some of the tiles have fixed colours, some have material colours and some are transparent, right? There must be a way to specify this for custom graphics. On the other hand I don't want to lose the ability to just copy image of entire workshop and it will work without any any additional configuration.

[UristWoodie]

I'm still waiting for the custom workshops. I did some work with it, but it's gathering dust right now.  Oh, and Toady mentioned workshop display in his latest Future of the Fort, which may impact this project.

Multiple materials will make it interesting..like the Dyers workshop (with a bucket of one material, and a barrel of another?) Soap makers, well, tanner (IIRC).

Waiting patiently. And eagerly. Thanks Mifki!