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[lethosor]

I'd recommend both - I usually use GCC 4.5 when compiling for Linux, but a number of other builds use GCC 4.9.

[Rose]

How isolated is the logic for determining what part of the screen is the Dwarf map?

As in, how easy would it be to rip it out and use it for my own project

[mifki]

How isolated is the logic for determining what part of the screen is the Dwarf map?

As in, how easy would it be to rip it out and use it for my own project

There's a function is_text_tile() https://github.com/mifki/df-twbt/blob/master/tileupdate_text.hpp#L1 , but as I moved to completely separate map rendering and don't need this logic anymore, I didn't pay attention to its accuracy recently.

[Rose]

Would you reccomend using it for replacing the rendered dwarf map entirely with something completely different? (In my case, perspective)

[mifki]

Would you reccomend using it for replacing the rendered dwarf map entirely with something completely different? (In my case, perspective)

Using what - my method, or that function (which alone isn't very helpful)?
I think the optimal way is to do how I'm doing it - disabling the original map rendering and doing whatever you want instead, at least it's better from CPU usage point of view. The only problem is that it requires some additional addresses to be located in df binary for each version. Otherwise you can use twbt code as a base, it handles all the patches and layout stuff.

[Rose]

Well, the best, if most work-intensive, method, would be to just make my own UI separately.

[Nopenope]

Is the separate TWBT print mode a permanent solution? Has it ever been possible to use a 2D print mode along with twbt in the past?

[mifki]

Is the separate TWBT print mode a permanent solution? Has it ever been possible to use a 2D print mode along with twbt in the past?

Separate print mode is just a way to enable twbt. It requires OpenGL mode (STANDARD) and never worked in 2D. Theoretically, it should be possible to support 2D mode as well, but I don't see a reason to do that.

[Nopenope]

Well, it could be interesting for those whose video card doesn't support OpenGL or wish to have TrueType fonts.

Also can TWBT be enable in VBO print mode?

[mifki]

Well, it could be interesting for those whose video card doesn't support OpenGL or wish to have TrueType fonts.

I was thinking about possibility to use multilevel rendering (obviously font-related functionality doesn't make sense with TTF) in 2D mode, but it's just too much work that not so many people need.

Also can TWBT be enable in VBO print mode?

VBO is just a variation of OpenGL and TWBT does it internally. That's the idea of having a separate print mode for TWBT - it's not working _in_ some mode, it replaces renderer, so it _is_ a mode itself.

[Meph]

Mifki, I have been away for a bit, but someone just told me that you found a solution for the "no ttf with twbt" problem, by using print-mode:twbt and allowed smaller text that way. No ttf, but thats not needed if you get small text anyway.

Awesome! Thank you for that addition.

[HaterSkater]

Mifki, I have been away for a bit, but someone just told me that you found a solution for the "no ttf with twbt" problem, by using print-mode:twbt and allowed smaller text that way. No ttf, but thats not needed if you get small text anyway.

Awesome! Thank you for that addition.

I think, that actual point of using ttf may be kinda different, cuz it allows you to use ttf font, that may not be monospaced, as tilesets are. If DF had better support of TTF (and even TWBT+TTF combo) before, i've decided to make normal font file, or choose existing, instead of making text tileset.
Not asking for it now, though, since i'm happy with the font i've finally developed

[Meph]

The important part for me is not how the font looks, but that enough characters can be displayed to avoid cutting of long names, reactions and so forth. And that it does.

[lethosor]

I think TwbT only allows a different font size, not a different sidebar size (in other words, the sidebar will only take up less space if you use a narrower font - you won't be able to see more text in it).
Edit: Of course, if you're referring to text-based screens, a narrower font allows longer line lengths.

[LeoCean]

Em well the smaller font does give more text in height and width compared to the larger font. Meaning more items are shown if you are in certain menus or even dwarf description pages. I'm pretty you could use smaller text before the printmode was set to twbt or TWBT_LEGACY though, that added for other reasons that I now forget. At least around the time twbt tilesize xx xx was added back in 40.10 at the latest though it was slightly before .11.