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Author Topic: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): Post-game AAR  (Read 51388 times)

E. Albright

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2014, 05:21:43 pm »

Sorry to hear that. Well, there will be more games down the road, and if no one starts one up when you've time and computer access, you can always start your own.



So we have an open slot again. Twiggie? Tompliss? One of you two want to step up? Even though Llamaserver is on hold right now pending bugfixes, we can still work through the planning before it comes back up...
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Mindmaker

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2014, 05:42:03 pm »

Wouldn't want to start one up as a no-experience guy, but you're right, there will always be some more games.
I just would have liked to play in this one.
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2014, 01:40:19 am »

Well, you just have to pray llamaserver stays down for two weeks :D
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2014, 03:37:39 am »

Well, you just have to pray llamaserver stays down for two weeks :D

Yup :(
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2014, 08:58:06 am »

Good news!
Quote from: llamabeast
Johan has given me a quick fix which hopefully will overcome the crash bug. However I'm unlikely to have time to implement it until Saturday, so that's the current ETA. Sorry to keep you waiting.

How are we planning to divy up the teams exactly?
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E. Albright

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2014, 10:45:56 am »

My preliminary proposal based on the claimed experience levels was:

T1:
E. Albright (A)
Frumple (B)
Shadowlord (B)

T2:
Karlito (A)
Denzi (B)
GP Trixie (B)

T3:
USEC_OFFICER (I)
Culise (I)
lavenders2 (B)

T4:
gman8181 (I)
Shadowgandor (I)
Twiggie (B)

Thoughts?

[Edit: oh, and the poll's a foregone conclusion w/o needing any more votes, even if we were to assume we had one retracted/nullified. MA wins, and 4x3 wins, so 4x3 MA shall be era and team size.]
« Last Edit: April 10, 2014, 06:35:54 pm by E. Albright »
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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): interest check/pre-planning
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2014, 10:48:20 am »

Sounds good to me.

*Goes to high-five Culise and Lavenders.*
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Culise

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I've no objections. ^_^
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Twiggie

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dibs? :>
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Shadowlord

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How are we doing nation selection? (I'd prefer MA Ulm, for example, but we have a lot of people)
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Karlito

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Team division by fiat certainly is the easiest way. That looks fine by me.
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E. Albright

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Twiggie has the slot and is provisionally assigned to team 4.
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E. Albright

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): pre-planning
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2014, 07:12:31 pm »

For nation selection, I'd propose a modification of something Delta discussed on the prior page. Each team would prepare a slate of nations - let's say 15? - in a preference-ranked list. The lists would then be compared for each rank, and if a team has picked a nation that's still free and no one else drafted during that round, they get it. If it's taken or another team also sought it, they don't get a nation that round. Drafting continues until all teams have 3 nations. E.g.:

Ex 1:
Team 1: A, B, C, D, E, F
Team 2: B, C, D, E, F, G
-> T1 = A, E, F; T2 = B, C, D

Ex 2:
T1: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, K, L, M, X, Y, Z
T2: B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, M, L, K, P, Q, R
T3: B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, X, Y, Z
T4: F, E, D, C, B, A, J, I, H, K, L, M, X, Y, Z
-> T1 = A, B, C; T2 = M, P, Q; T3 = K, X, Y; T4 = F, E, J

Pros:
  • Allows for potentially interesting and unexpected nation choices
  • Fairly fair, so long as all lists are submitted to an uninvolved third (fifth?) party
  • Quick and deterministic once each team prepares their list

Cons:
  • Allows for potentially interesting and unexpected nation choices
  • All teams could end up with three nations they hate who have poor synergy



We could also just do a by-team round-robin draft. E.g., the 1st team picks, then 2,3,4,4,3,2,1,1,2,3,4 for some random initial ordering of 1 ,2, 3, and 4.

Pros:
  • Allows for extremely predictable nation choices
  • Fairly fair, even if the initial ordering for some reason isn't
  • Every team can command some amount of synergy and preference

Cons:
  • Allows for extremely predictable nation choices
  • More time consuming to execute
« Last Edit: April 10, 2014, 07:23:56 pm by E. Albright »
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Karlito

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): pre-planning
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2014, 07:22:59 pm »

Start a poll? I'd prefer the round-robin draft.
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E. Albright

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Re: Dominions 4 Round 4.04 (Disciples!): pre-planning
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2014, 07:28:56 pm »

Poll is up. You're not allowed to pick choice three unless you actually propose an alternative.
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