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Until I figure out how to un-close it, at least.

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So yeah.

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Voting closed: May 01, 2014, 02:06:40 pm

[Sheb]

What? Of course you eat bulls in France. I ate bulls in France.

[vagel7]

Still, I wouldn't like to be an Estonian right now.

Absolutely nothing is happening here. First of all we finally completed our military airfield and we have Danish fighters coming in at the start of May. The Estonian Defence Force is buying 44 armoured assault vehicles that can provide light artillery fire. There was actually a poll held in Narva(the most Russian town in Estonia, right at the border) and the majority did not want to have anything to do with Russia. Russian elite in Estonia recently formed Memorandum 14 in which they cite that absolutely no country should attempt to disturb Estonia's sovereignty in any way.

However there was a protest so to speak organized in front of the Russian embassy by pro-Russia people. There were under 50 people there and they were showing support for something which Russia doesn't want anything to do with, the USSR. The organiser of that event and his assistant have both served time in jail due to their involvement in the 2007 Bronze Night.

With actually increasing amounts of NATO troops in the Baltics, I would say that people are actually not as worried here anymore.

[andrea]

well, italy in world war 2 played a not indifferent part in harming germany's efforts, opening new fronts and then failing utterly, forcing germany to get there and help. it might not have been a decisive blow, but it weighted them down. Hitler himself asked Mussolini to stay out of the war for a couple more years, until the italian army was actually able to fight, but this sound advice was ignored.

[Knit tie]

Any news?

[Sheb]

Cool Stuff.

Nice. I actually had a dream recently about joining the Lithuanian Foreign Legion (I don't care that it doesn't actually exist) to fight off the Russian. Glad to know it won't happen.

Although it makes sense. Ukrainian economy is even shittier that Russia's on many measure, and pensioners for example have a massive advantage in joining Russia. Not so for Baltic Russians.

[Guardian G.I.]

You know that Russia was "peacekeeping" in Abkhazia and South Ossetia until 2008?

Russian peacekeepers were placed there by the Sochi agreements of 1992 and 1993 that ended the Georgian-Ossetian and Georgian-Abkhazian wars. From 1993 to 2008, they preserved the status quo.
In the immediate beginning of the 2008 war in South Ossetia, Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia got hit by a purely defensive Georgian rocket artillery strike on Tskhinvali and then aggressively violated Georgian territorial integrity by defending themselves from a purely defensive Georgian offensive until Russian reinforcements arrived.

[Sheb]

Well, yeah, after month of bringing in forces above and beyond the agreement, shelling on Georgian position by Ossetians operating from within the Russians camps, and the day after an armored column crossed the Roki tunnel...

I actually would like to debate the Georgian war with you. I am ferociously pro-Georgian on that one (My dad was working for Saakaashvilii at the time, and was in Tbilisi when Russians planes bombed it) but it would derail the thread. Can we discuss it in PM?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

That is not a coincedence that Russia has most success in the poorest Ukrainian region so far.

Why is it poor? Many reasons: high population density, high average age, outdated industry, low prices on coal. But the main one - Highly corrupt system. Yanukovich and all his team are from there. But if in Ukraine they got full power since 2010, there, in Donbass, they ruled since 1990s

[Guardian G.I.]

Well, yeah, after month of bringing in forces above and beyond the agreement, shelling on Georgian position by Ossetians operating from within the Russians camps, and the day after an armored column crossed the Roki tunnel...

I actually would like to debate the Georgian war with you. I am ferociously pro-Georgian on that one (My dad was working for Saakaashvilii at the time, and was in Tbilisi when Russians planes bombed it) but it would derail the thread. Can we discuss it in PM?

I don't have time for this at the moment, sorry about that.
I've read your posts on the 2008 war in the European Politics Megathread, so I know your position on the conflict.

[Sheb]

Ok, as you wish Guardian G.I.

UR, aren't the Western regions the poorest?

[Mr. Strange]

Still, I wouldn't like to be an Estonian right now.

I'm pretty jelly right now, at least their prime minister has shown some backbone when talking about Russia...

Vagel, any chance we could borrow him for a while?

[Sheb]

Mr Strange, you're Lithuanian?

[cerapa]

Still, I wouldn't like to be an Estonian right now.

Absolutely nothing is happening here. First of all we finally completed our military airfield and we have Danish fighters coming in at the start of May. The Estonian Defence Force is buying 44 armoured assault vehicles that can provide light artillery fire. There was actually a poll held in Narva(the most Russian town in Estonia, right at the border) and the majority did not want to have anything to do with Russia. Russian elite in Estonia recently formed Memorandum 14 in which they cite that absolutely no country should attempt to disturb Estonia's sovereignty in any way.

However there was a protest so to speak organized in front of the Russian embassy by pro-Russia people. There were under 50 people there and they were showing support for something which Russia doesn't want anything to do with, the USSR. The organiser of that event and his assistant have both served time in jail due to their involvement in the 2007 Bronze Night.

With actually increasing amounts of NATO troops in the Baltics, I would say that people are actually not as worried here anymore.

I was like "Wut?" for a second there, thinking I had missed some important piece of news and that we got invaded or something.

[Sheb]

I have a fondness for Estonians since my dad brought a few homes from the famed "Estonian Kitchen" of Tbilisi. As far as I'm concerned, Estonia is Best Baltic.

[Mr. Strange]

Mr Strange, you're Lithuanian?

Finnish, our (pro-money) government seems to think that Russian trade and turism is more important than criticising Russian involvement in Crimea and east Ukraine. I am not happy.