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too fast for me. Contracts should be longer, more drawn out.

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at just the right pace. Keep doing what you're doing

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too slowly. There's too much time where not much is happening

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slowly at times, quickly at others. (Explain what you mean)

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[Remuthra]

What follows is truly a spoiler; it contains information regarding the larger continent upon which the Altera Valley exists. Details are left out such that it will not provide any information that would likely effect the way anyone plays their characters, but it does contain general information which your characters would not know. If you would like a more detailed version I would be happy to provide it, on the condition you swear a solemn oath not to metagame. I just want to give you guys a chance to see the general direction the human race is headed.

Can ghosts metagame, or are they considered characters too?

[Samarkand]

What follows is truly a spoiler; it contains information regarding the larger continent upon which the Altera Valley exists. Details are left out such that it will not provide any information that would likely effect the way anyone plays their characters, but it does contain general information which your characters would not know. If you would like a more detailed version I would be happy to provide it, on the condition you swear a solemn oath not to metagame. I just want to give you guys a chance to see the general direction the human race is headed.

Can ghosts metagame, or are they considered characters too?

Ghosts should, in general, avoid A) directly impacting another character of the same player, and B) actions which would require me to post information which would give the mercenaries information which they should not be privy to yet.

The second one is really the more problematic one: if I let a ghost run all over the continent, when I describe it to them it would reveal a wealth of information to the mercenaries, when they are intended to discover that for themselves.

A great example of this is the Burning Sea. If a ghost were to survey it they would likely learn all of the details necessary to exit the valley, and by them learning the other characters would know. Whereas the mercenaries right now would have to be terribly clever, and spend quite a bit of money, to find a way to figure that challenge out without quite a few deaths.

I hope this makes sense/answers your questions. If you can think of a way around this problem I'm open to it.

[The Froggy Ninja]

Well if the ghosts enter spoiler territory then you could PM their turns and they could PM their actions. They could also be treated like the antagonists from Enchanters of the Shrouded River Delta If course that would still require the ghosts to maintain an honor system about metagaming but that still greatly decreases the chance. Also, I would like a more detailed thing as my characters either cannot speak or are not largely involved in conflict/exploration. Please PM. Also, if my ghost discovers something can I try to communicate it to non-me players?

[Remuthra]

You could also just mess with perspectives. They're ghosts, so they're not exactly great at seeing the material realm. You could plant alternate scenes from the past or something, and that way we wouldn't be able to trust the ghost information in the mercenary situations.

[Samarkand]

Well if the ghosts enter spoiler territory then you could PM their turns and they could PM their actions. They could also be treated like the antagonists from Enchanters of the Shrouded River Delta If course that would still require the ghosts to maintain an honor system about metagaming but that still greatly decreases the chance. Also, I would like a more detailed thing as my characters either cannot speak or are not largely involved in conflict/exploration. Please PM. Also, if my ghost discovers something can I try to communicate it to non-me players?

I'll send you a description if people don't ask for one to be made available here.

You can probably communicate simple information, anything too complex and the roll will approach impossible.

I don't think I want to PM turns, mostly because I want the information from a turn to be accessible to the entire group, or anyone reading this for fun, at least eventually. How is it handled in Enchanters? I haven't read it...

You could also just mess with perspectives. They're ghosts, so they're not exactly great at seeing the material realm. You could plant alternate scenes from the past or something, and that way we wouldn't be able to trust the ghost information in the mercenary situations.

I might consider that. You could run into the other tribal races, but once you approach any super specific information I can just make everything get garbled. The one thing that has to be relevant for ghosts, but represents a spoiler risk, is knowledge about different crystals. How should I handle that?

[Remuthra]

You could also just mess with perspectives. They're ghosts, so they're not exactly great at seeing the material realm. You could plant alternate scenes from the past or something, and that way we wouldn't be able to trust the ghost information in the mercenary situations.

I might consider that. You could run into the other tribal races, but once you approach any super specific information I can just make everything get garbled. The one thing that has to be relevant for ghosts, but represents a spoiler risk, is knowledge about different crystals. How should I handle that?

Quantum magic. Crystals exist in two states at once.

[Samarkand]

You could also just mess with perspectives. They're ghosts, so they're not exactly great at seeing the material realm. You could plant alternate scenes from the past or something, and that way we wouldn't be able to trust the ghost information in the mercenary situations.

I might consider that. You could run into the other tribal races, but once you approach any super specific information I can just make everything get garbled. The one thing that has to be relevant for ghosts, but represents a spoiler risk, is knowledge about different crystals. How should I handle that?

Quantum magic. Crystals exist in two states at once.

Erm, I really enjoy quantum physics, but you'll have to explain a tiny bit.

[The Froggy Ninja]

Well if the ghosts enter spoiler territory then you could PM their turns and they could PM their actions. They could also be treated like the antagonists from Enchanters of the Shrouded River Delta If course that would still require the ghosts to maintain an honor system about metagaming but that still greatly decreases the chance. Also, I would like a more detailed thing as my characters either cannot speak or are not largely involved in conflict/exploration. Please PM. Also, if my ghost discovers something can I try to communicate it to non-me players?

I'll send you a description if people don't ask for one to be made available here.

You can probably communicate simple information, anything too complex and the roll will approach impossible.

I don't think I want to PM turns, mostly because I want the information from a turn to be accessible to the entire group, or anyone reading this for fun, at least eventually. How is it handled in Enchanters? I haven't read it...

In Enchanters they had a Quicktopic that the antagonists as well as people who swore they didn't want to make a character were allowed access to and the players had no knowledge of what was going on aside from things that directly influenced them (such as the fay driving away all the animals and causing tree branches to whap them {although they didn't know that the fey did it} or in our case dream messages etc.)

[Remuthra]

You could also just mess with perspectives. They're ghosts, so they're not exactly great at seeing the material realm. You could plant alternate scenes from the past or something, and that way we wouldn't be able to trust the ghost information in the mercenary situations.

I might consider that. You could run into the other tribal races, but once you approach any super specific information I can just make everything get garbled. The one thing that has to be relevant for ghosts, but represents a spoiler risk, is knowledge about different crystals. How should I handle that?

Quantum magic. Crystals exist in two states at once.

Erm, I really enjoy quantum physics, but you'll have to explain a tiny bit.

Essentially, crystals transcend existence, so you can write whatever you want about them and then redact it later, because maaagic. Oscillation between multiple states of reality with different properties.

Never underestimate the power of continuity loopholes.

[Samarkand]

So, what I'm hearing, naturally from our two ghosts, is that you want a way to explore the valley at large, and want to make some system work that limits the sensitive information that makes it back to the mercenaries.

Given how much you want to make this work, I'm thinking I'll just post ghost turns in spoilers, with the understanding that metagaming is not approved, and penalize any action that obviously relies on knowledge that would have only been in the spoilers.

[The Froggy Ninja]

Seems fair. What about inferences from ghost action posts?

[Remuthra]

Aww, but that's not devious at all!

[Samarkand]

Aww, but that's not devious at all!

Secret code and subtlety only make sense if I don't let a single player have both a mercenary and a ghost.

Seems fair. What about inferences from ghost action posts?

Those too, probably anything overly suspicious I'll just ask why their character would want to do that, requiring some reasonable explanation of motive. Mostly I trust you guys to not do anything metagamey.

[Remuthra]

As a GM, I find your lack of desire to mess with the players and feast upon their tears deplorable .

[Samarkand]

As a GM, I find your lack of desire to mess with the players and feast upon their tears deplorable .

It is a great fault of my games that they tend to be rather honest.