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[notquitethere]

Sorry Monk, it's just as well my two mistakes appear to have cancelled each other out...

[GreatWyrmGold]

Expand 103
Grow 103
Channel 34 southeast to 49.

[notquitethere]

I could do growing this season, but I rather suspect the ents will just raid the fields and I'll be left worse off.

Mimic The Lakers
Expand 142, 143, 144

[monk12]

Action Pool 10

Expand 50 (AP:9)
Expand 63 (AP:7)
Expand 68 (AP:5)
Tower 68 (AP:4)
Expand 22 (AP:0)

[a1s]

expand 57,56,69,32

[notquitethere]

Dariush, if you look at GWG's action, you've actually got two unspent actions for your turn from the Brutal Raid hitting an ill-judged farm. Unless I'm missing something?

Just Cerapa now. I'm back in the world of computers with paint tools now, and will try to get an update out as soon as all the actions are in.

[cerapa]

Fecund 97, 111, 124, 138 (4)
Expand 36, 23 (5)
Expand 45, 62 (6)
Expand 75 (1)

[notquitethere]

Year Four - Summer

In the beginning of the fourth year, the heretics had spread to almost every corner of the world, their borderlines curling and snaring round one another.

Spoiler: Year 4 - Summer (click to show/hide)

In Summer you can: Expand, Improve, Raze, Raid, Dismantle, and do some heresy actions. Best post in order if you intend to influence territory actionable by others.

Some of you (well, Cerapa) tried to expand into an already expanded area last turn— try to be mindful of what others have posted earlier than you in the turn order.

Turn order:
GreatWyrmGold [pop.3]
NQT [pop.5]
Dariush [pop.7]
a1s [pop.10]
Monk12 [pop.11]
cerapa [pop.16]


Active Players

Spoiler: 1. The Accord - NQT (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: The Accord
Colour: Black
Heresy: Heterodox
Species : Humans
Population: 5
Population Range: 3-10
Territory: 7
Cities: 2
(+1 cap for being human)

Spoiler: 2. The Council Of Trees - cerapa (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: The Council Of Trees
Colour: Lime Green
Heresy: Bountiful
Species : Ents
Population: 16
Population Range: 16-39
Territory: 24
Cities: 15

Spoiler: 4. The Lakers - GreatWyrmGold (click to show/hide)

Color: Blue
Heresy: Aquatic
Species: Merfolk
Population: 2/(3-6)
Territory: 4 (of which, 1 ocean)
Cities: 2

Spoiler: 5. The Sand Empire - Dariush (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: The Sand Empire;
Colour: Orange;
Heresy: Levellers;
Species: Djinn;
Population: 7/(7-19)
Territory: 23
Cities: 6

Spoiler: 6. The Republic of Babelon - Monk12 (click to show/hide)

Colour: Purple
Heresy: Builder
Species : Swine
Population: 11
Population Range: 11-28
Territory: 18
Cities: 10

Spoiler: 7. Pearly Swine - a1s (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: Pearly Swine
Colour: Pink
Heresy: Bountiful
Species : Swine
Population: 10
Population Range: 9-24
Territory: 16
Cities: 8

[cerapa]

Didn't expect Dariush to do that, so wasn't paying attention.

[a1s]

Spoiler: Year 4 - Summer (click to show/hide)

What happened to all my cities?

[notquitethere]

I honestly have no idea... I'll put them back and update the map as soon as I can. Sorry for the upset!

... (edit) OK! Fixed.

[notquitethere]

Small Clarification on Action Ordering

I realise we're about to move into a phase of intense fighting back and forth, and I thought it helpful to clarify how population loss works. In a Season each player has a Turn. Population changes happen at the end of a player's Turn, not the end of a Season. If you start your turn having been attacked earlier in the Season by another player, your effective population (and thus, number of actions) for that turn may have been decreased, so pay attention to the actions of others. This hasn't come into effect much because attacking players have had a population equal to their minimum population (due to cities) but this won't always be the case, especially when cities start to be captured.

As a courtesy, it might be nice to state the new population of a player you've just attacked if they come later than you in the turn order.

Probably everyone already knew this, but now you definitely know it.

[cerapa]

I didn't. This changes everything. By which I mean I am royally fucked.

This has the following effects:
Assuming two equally sized civilizations at war, the one going first in the turn order will win, hard.
Assuming a smaller civilization at min pop and a larger civilization at min pop, the smaller civilization will be ahead as long as the amount of nearby cities is as large as the population difference.

Basically the turn order is now the most important factor in everything. One must always stay one pop behind the enemy.

Gonna have to wait for everyone elses actions before I can even begin thinking about what I should do.

[notquitethere]

Hmm, if it really wasn't clear we can take a vote on this and shift it to Season end change. What do people think?

[a1s]

Keeping your population low actually causes about as much good as it does harm, and using it effectively is going to be a mark of a competent player. That being said, I do think that losing population should move you up in the turn order as it happens (so, for example if player A has 10 populations, player B has 11 and player C has 12, then A attacks C 2 times, the turn order should shift from A-B-C, to A-C-B)
As for how this is news to anyone, this is at least the third time I hear about it (though it could have been from HoH1), and here's a proof from this game:

Ooh, I just realized I might have screwed myself up. Uh. So, when it says "A player has a number of actions equal to their starting population," does that refer to their population at the start of the season, or their population at the start of their specific turn? e.g Player A is at their minimum population of 5 and takes their turn after Player B, Player B conquers two cities from Player A on his turn, does Player A have 5 actions or 3 on his turn?

You take actions equal to your population as it is at the start of your turn, so in your example, that would be 3 actions in player A's go.