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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24465 on: November 05, 2015, 07:57:50 pm »

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24466 on: November 05, 2015, 07:58:48 pm »

... Hey, wait a minute, how does Abigail know about the pill machine thing?
Theres surely some kind of map and it surely had a pill symbol and she has some medical experience she knows somewhat what shes doing
Nooooooot.  Really.
That thing is esotech, not anything normal.
eh that seems weird you think they would realize people who can't read would be thrown on the ship but eh the armory master replacement guy would have told her.
ATH, Abigail seems to have knowledge of the pill machine, amps, and other semi-hidden information that normally comes with major disclaimers, without a explanation of how she got said info nor the disclaimers on their use. but doesn't know basic information that anyone would tell her (that Lyra is sentient)?

That seems inconsistant, that the only time she doesn't know something is when knowledge might / would dissuade her from doing something that could harm a teammate.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24467 on: November 05, 2015, 08:02:43 pm »

I'm of the opinion that Abigail should never have been amped.  If that is accepted, I'm willing to accept her knowing about the pill machine.  And mostly only because I kind of want to see what will happen.

Hey, did she even have money for an amp to begin with...?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24468 on: November 05, 2015, 08:04:13 pm »

I can sympathize, I did that stuff all the time back when. Remember the 'I can't read' braintext fiasco, Lenglon?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24469 on: November 05, 2015, 08:05:32 pm »

... Hey, wait a minute, how does Abigail know about the pill machine thing?
Theres surely some kind of map and it surely had a pill symbol and she has some medical experience she knows somewhat what shes doing
Nooooooot.  Really.
That thing is esotech, not anything normal.
eh that seems weird you think they would realize people who can't read would be thrown on the ship but eh the armory master replacement guy would have told her.
ATH, Abigail seems to have knowledge of the pill machine, amps, and other semi-hidden information that normally comes with major disclaimers, without a explanation of how she got said info nor the disclaimers on their use. but doesn't know basic information that anyone would tell her (that Lyra is sentient)?

That seems inconsistant, that the only time she doesn't know something is when knowledge might / would dissuade her from doing something that could harm a teammate.
well no one in character told her anything through the entire encounter with you flint and that other guy she knows nothing about you besides your a big cat and she has nothing in her background that tells her your not a normal cat besides a stuffed toy the reason she knows a lot is mainly backstory or the armory master telling her things.
I'm of the opinion that Abigail should never have been amped.  If that is accepted, I'm willing to accept her knowing about the pill machine.  And mostly only because I kind of want to see what will happen.

Hey, did she even have money for an amp to begin with...?
yeah it was the first thing she bought then she bought 2 cans of medifoam 1 token and has 1 token left.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24470 on: November 05, 2015, 08:06:30 pm »

... Wait, did she BUY the amp and then not actually INSTALL it?

Uh, Abigail never really ICly interacted with the AM, let's keep the Handwavium to a minimum here.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24471 on: November 05, 2015, 08:12:57 pm »

... Wait, did she BUY the amp and then not actually INSTALL it?

Uh, Abigail never really ICly interacted with the AM, let's keep the Handwavium to a minimum here.
she went to the medbay and had it installed so yes it's inside her and she can use it.

And the armory master was like the second  person she talked to on ship actually she tried briefly to talk to mycroft then she went to the armory and ended up talking and buying the amp from her.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24472 on: November 05, 2015, 08:14:27 pm »

... Wait, did she BUY the amp and then not actually INSTALL it?

Uh, Abigail never really ICly interacted with the AM, let's keep the Handwavium to a minimum here.
she went to the medbay and had it installed so yes it's inside her and she can use it.

And the armory master was like the second  person she talked to on ship actually she tried briefly to talk to mycroft then she went to the armory and ended up talking and buying the amp from her.
But... Doctor phobia...
Does not compute, m'kay?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24473 on: November 05, 2015, 08:16:13 pm »

... Wait, did she BUY the amp and then not actually INSTALL it?

Uh, Abigail never really ICly interacted with the AM, let's keep the Handwavium to a minimum here.
she went to the medbay and had it installed so yes it's inside her and she can use it.

And the armory master was like the second  person she talked to on ship actually she tried briefly to talk to mycroft then she went to the armory and ended up talking and buying the amp from her.
But... Doctor phobia...
Does not compute, m'kay?
it was around 3 minutes after she got out of stasis that she did that if anything can be reasonably called space dementia its that.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24474 on: November 05, 2015, 08:18:40 pm »

Ooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.  But seriously though, if you have to scramble to justify stuff with stasis dementia, that should be a hint.
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24475 on: November 05, 2015, 08:26:38 pm »

Ooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.  But seriously though, if you have to scramble to justify stuff with stasis dementia, that should be a hint.
I mean roughly waking up to what to her seems like a few minutes after her parents death being thrust into a bizare situation and if i recall the armory master told her to go to the medbay to install it she just blindly followed orders being the most confused in her life plus -1mind shes not a genius certainly and it takes a bit lonher to get her bearings even now she doesn't completely got ahold of them
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24476 on: November 05, 2015, 08:31:46 pm »

Ooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.  But seriously though, if you have to scramble to justify stuff with stasis dementia, that should be a hint.

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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24477 on: November 05, 2015, 08:46:48 pm »

-1 mind
amps
goes to medbay without complaint for brain surgery
reacts violently to being told to go there for a basic checkup about fainting spells
knows of pill machine
knows how to use pill machine (see -1 mind)
hasn't talked to anyone who has used pill machine about previous uses.
doesn't know the difference between Lyra and a cat
does know that cat's aren't considered intelligent.
doesn't know using VR machines is unusual behavior for a cat
doesn't know using VR machines is a sign of intelligence
does know what VR machines are
information source is AM
AM routinely puts out disclaimers on dangerous equipment
doesn't know disclaimers (including ones on Amp use)

do you see why it seems like what your character does and doesn't know or understand is being manipulated specifically to enable harming others "by accident"?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24478 on: November 05, 2015, 08:55:22 pm »

-1 mind
amps
goes to medbay without complaint for brain surgery
reacts violently to being told to go there for a basic checkup about fainting spells
knows of pill machine
knows how to use pill machine (see -1 mind)
hasn't talked to anyone who has used pill machine about previous uses.
doesn't know the difference between Lyra and a cat
does know that cat's aren't considered intelligent.
doesn't know using VR machines is unusual behavior for a cat
doesn't know using VR machines is a sign of intelligence
does know what VR machines are
information source is AM
AM routinely puts out disclaimers on dangerous equipment
doesn't know disclaimers (including ones on Amp use)

do you see why it seems like what your character does and doesn't know or understand is being manipulated specifically to enable harming others "by accident"?
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Re: Einsteinian Roulette: OOC and NEW PLAYER INFO
« Reply #24479 on: November 05, 2015, 09:10:37 pm »

@Lenglon I think you're being a little too harsh here. But... the list is strange, indeed.


Well, it's not our place to judge another person's RPing/storytelling skills, is it? Especially if the character in question explicitly has the debilitating -1 Mind. I guess 'strange, incomprehensible, irrational behavior' (to outside observers, on occasions) is very much IC here.
As much as I generally detest it (I love overcomplicating things), I think it's high time to break out Hanlon's razor from the Armory (no offense implied). Sometimes a banana self-contradictory behaviour is just a banana self-contradictory behaviour.
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