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[10ebbor10]

Wait a second? Spanish Guerilla and English Fleet? Your meaning?

I don't understand your question.

I think he requires a more descive explanation of the situation.

Anyway, to me it appears that for most of it's military history, Russia has used a combination of We Have Reserves and We Can Retreat to force it's invaders into overextension and collapse.

Which doesn't really matter here, because at worst this'll be a limited conflict in Ukraine itself.

[gogis]

Why do you need a french in the thread?

There is a guy who deem himself as an expert in french history. I really want somebody from french to fix his 'caveats'

[10ebbor10]

I'm Belgian. Does that count?

Then again, no military history expert.

[gogis]

Wait a second? Spanish Guerilla and English Fleet? Your meaning?

I don't understand your question.

I think he requires a more descive explanation of the situation.

Anyway, to me it appears that for most of it's military history, Russia has used a combination of We Have Reserves and We Can Retreat to force it's invaders into overextension and collapse.

Which doesn't really matter here, because at worst this'll be a limited conflict in Ukraine itself.

It is mongolian tactics, btw

[mainiac]

I think he requires a more descive explanation of the situation.

Like a complete explanation of a six year war between France and Spain?

No thanks.

[gogis]

I'm Belgian. Does that count?

Then again, no military history expert.

I dont really know now who to ask about how big was Peninsula Campaign against Russian Campaign. One guy just imply that numbers doesn't matter. I am pretty sure that sane french is going to help him with that morale issue. Thats all.

[10ebbor10]

Well, numbers do matter, but there's the economics behind the war as well. You can be as succesfull as you want, without supplies you're getting nowhere. I think Mainiac's point might be that without the Spanish Guerilla and the English blockade, Napoleon would have much more economic strength allowing him to either win the Russian campaign*, or at least recover from it much better as happened now.

*Or never depart on it. I mean, the entire point of the Invasion was to pressure Russia to stop trading with Great Britain, forcing them to sue for peace and end the economic blockade.

[gogis]

Wait a second? Spanish Guerilla and English Fleet? Your meaning?

I don't understand your question.

I think he requires a more descive explanation of the situation.

Anyway, to me it appears that for most of it's military history, Russia has used a combination of We Have Reserves and We Can Retreat to force it's invaders into overextension and collapse.

Which doesn't really matter here, because at worst this'll be a limited conflict in Ukraine itself.

Ugh, actually it's was an usual answer to a much superior force. Ukraine is just like a small little brother gone batshit insane. Granted, somewhat justified, but none the less.

[gogis]

Well, numbers do matter, but there's the economics behind the war as well. You can be as succesfull as you want, without supplies you're getting nowhere.

It's never was economics. Grand Armee failed because of harsh winter. Simple as that.
And oh please. Please. People. Watch documentary (it is EXCELLENT). It's feels like I am talking to blind and cripple right now.

[10ebbor10]

They failed because of the winter, but without the economic pressure from Great Britain and Spain they would have never needed to depart on the war. After all, the entire point of the war was to force Russia to cease trade with Great Britain, thereby forcing the latter to sue for peace, thereby ending the economic blockade. It's always economics if you dig deep enough.

Anyway, can't find the link, and I'm not going to bother digging through the last 6 pages or so.

[gogis]

They failed because of the winter, but without the economic pressure from Great Britain and Spain they would have never needed to depart on it. The entire point of the war was to force Russia to cease trade with Great Britain anyway.

Anyway, can't find the link, and I'm not going to bother digging through the last 6 pages or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tORG__mggF8

[RedKing]

Equally relevant:





Because seriously....discussing the Napoleonic Wars as a model for current events is about as useful as Napoleon's Tyrannosaurassiers vs. Kutuzov's Bear Cavalry.

[10ebbor10]

Kind-off.

Anyway, I might watch that documentary later. It's rather long.

[gogis]

Kind-off.

Anyway, I might watch that documentary later. It's rather long.

And I consider that to be western propaganda. I am not going to link french series wich is alot more... Neutral.

edit: well I actually will link it
http://dokumentfilm.ru/istorija/i_xix_veka/199-napoleon-napoleon-dokumentalnye-filmy.html

But the sole reason I can't find it in 5 minutes on imdb tells me something

Anybody knows music for main theme?

[Mr. Strange]

I'm Belgian. Does that count?

Of course not. Everyone knows Belgium does not exist.