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[BlindKitty]

Russian poll (Levada Center made, look in Moscow Times or something like that; if you know Polish, it's on wpolityce.pl) I've read about just now: 73% Russians are pro-war with Ukraine, and only 2% would object to the government if such war would start. Y'know, brothers and all that.

[scriver]

But BlindKitty don't you know it's perfectly okay for an older brother to shove his younger brother headfirst into the fire if he feels slighted.

[Darvi]

Wait, we're allowed to do that? Damn, all these missed opportunities.

[DJ]

So, Putin is Gregor Clegane?

[Owlbread]

But BlindKitty don't you know it's perfectly okay for an older brother to shove his younger brother headfirst into the fire if he feels slighted.

Or prevent him from doing what he wants because he feels threatened by his independence.

I think one of the worst arguments I have read since this crisis began was the Oliver Stone style argument that Russia just wants security and doesn't want NATO on their borders. One columnist was applauded by a lot of people for saying the West should leave things be and Ukraine should be blocked from joining NATO or the EU for 20 years. I can't think of anything more offensive to the very concept of national self determination besides annexation.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

But BlindKitty don't you know it's perfectly okay for an older brother to shove his younger brother headfirst into the fire if he feels slighted.

Considering that when Kyiv was a large city with cathedrals Moscow was a forested area... I think it is obvious who is older here
(Not sure about brothers part... If by brothers you mean most genetically related then it is true only for Southern Russia were there are a lot of assimilated Ukrainians. If you mean language than Bulgarian is closer to Russian than Ukrainian. If you mean history, Russia just stole ancient and medieval Ukrainian history completely forgetting about all the tribes that lived in modern Russia)

Here are some maps showing Ukrainian genetics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsktPUsqOig ( I suspect it was done by racists. But it is natural, they are the most obsessed with stuff like that)

[Knit tie]

Blindkitty, every poll mentioning war that the russian press releases is invariably going to be rigged. That's one of Putin's oldest tactics.

And please, as I said, not every russian is a frothing nationalistic bastard. A bunch of us really are, and they scream the loudest, because that's what the government made them for, but the majority that the media always forgets to mention does not want any bloodshed.

[Helgoland]

Blindkitty, every poll mentioning war that the russian press releases is invariably going to be rigged. That's one of Putin's oldest tactics.

Huh, that carries a chilling implication: If Russian media present the Russian popular opinion as more war-lusty than it is at the command of the Kremlin, that would mean they're preparing a war...

[scriver]

By "older brother" I just wanted to bring to mind a bigger and stronger person who can push smaller people around (as older brothers are able to do to younger siblings because of their older age), not having anything to do with actual age. And yeah, referencing the story of brothers Gregor and Sandor Clegane, of course, as DJ said. I happened to have it on my mind since I watched the Hound's awesome audition earlier today.

[Knit tie]

Blindkitty, every poll mentioning war that the russian press releases is invariably going to be rigged. That's one of Putin's oldest tactics.

Huh, that carries a chilling implication: If Russian media present the Russian popular opinion as more war-lusty than it is at the command of the Kremlin, that would mean they're preparing a war...

Or they can just do it because it supports Putin's earlier actions. That's what russian media does: portray the government's decision as similar to that of the people for the purpose of garnering support. If we were preparing for war, the first thing to come would be conscription.

[GlyphGryph]

Would they need to conscript for a war with Ukraine? Honest question, I thought their current army was more than big enough.

[Sheb]

Their current army is made of 70% conscripts doing their military service.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

The funnies part is that half of Russian conscripts should be sent home to be replaced by fresh recruits tomorrow.

As for mobilization of reservists, specialists are called up.  Russia doesn't need total mobilization to start a war, partial is enough. I know that from a friend from Russia who has many relatives in military.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Our ministry of foreign affairs decided to troll Russia a bit. 

We suggested that Russia should become a confederacy and introduce 50 official languages with the same legal status

[Comrade P.]

Our ministry of foreign affairs decided to troll Russia a bit. 

We suggested that Russia should become a confederacy and introduce 50 official languages with the same legal status

Why not make local languges oficcial ones in subjects of our federation I cannot see, but why change our form of ruling from federation to confedration?
I don't actually know what is the difference. Explain, someone?