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[Ukrainian Ranger]

Hm, German media attributed the thing about women and children to Klitschko,

Klitchko said it earlier, of cause women* and children have nothing to do here

*unless that ones who are physically fit and have Amazonian mindset. Thousands of Ukrainian women there will not go away. Some will stay as medics, some will fight

Anyway, The attack has started. Livestream is here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4

[XXSockXX]

Oh, shit. Fire and water cannons. The shooting sounds seem to come from fireworks though. Doesn't look like the protesters are going to give up easily.
Apparently Prime Minister Asarow promised the EU to avoid using sharp ammunition...

[Sheb]

Sharp? Do you mean live?

Anyway, water cannons won't do the tricks. the protesters seems to be behind flaming tire barricades or something. I hope nothing else is used tonight. Who are the policemen? Berkut types?

[XXSockXX]

Sharp? Do you mean live?

Yeah, right. Live ammunition.

Actually Asarow said the use of firearms would be avoided. They have used rubber bullets and flashbangs in the past, which have caused most of the injuries and some of the deaths so far, so I guess he's referring to live ammo.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Berkut types?

Them, internal forces (who are proven to be not so much better than Berkut) more serious guys from various anti-terrorist special police units and at least two interesting uniformless persons without spotted behind police lines several hours back -

Spoiler: I doubt that they have musical instruments here (click to show/hide)

http://image.zn.ua/media/images/original/Feb2014/84018.jpg

Those guys may be anyone... Military snipers (army is not used officially) help from Belorussian\Russian friends. Hired freelancers. The fact is:  they are allowed to walk near the parliament building like that


XXSockXX, Remember one thing about Ukrainian Government, its promises mean NOTHING

[Sinistar]

What I dislike most is that after hearing a statement from "police" that two of them are dead two, I am actually hoping that this is true. I'd wish to to not be happy to hear about people dying. But I can't. Those young guys for me are same like another young guys from Munich or Berlin were for my grandfather back in 1941. Enemies that should be dead
And I have no doubts that I am not the only one who has that kind of attitude

That sounds really harsh. Are those police/military units seen on recent videos universally known to be that bad? It's sad when you are put in a situation where someone standing on the opposing side is not just a normal person like you, pushed in this situation against his/her will but still bound to do his/her duty, but instead is downright hostile to you. 

Currently, there's kinda low-flying fireworks going on that livestream, but seems things are calm for the moment.

edit:
Well, Ukrainian Ranger's post kinda answered my question. Still sad though.

[Dutchling]

Livestream is here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4

Dude is giving a speech. What is he saying?

edit: oh they're singing. Cutest revolution ever.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Livestream is here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4

Dude is giving a speech. What is he saying?

I have a crawling 3G internet now, can't say, no youtube for me

[XXSockXX]

While I can't understand what they're saying it's alternating between opposition people encouraging the protesters (lots of "Slava Ukraini"= Glory to Ukraine), people singing and from time to time a comment from a tv correspondent.
The attack seems to be going slow though. There are some tents or barricades on fire and people throw things, but they don't seem to move away or move a lot at all. Also no more water cannons so far.

[Sinistar]

The fire is the most scary thing currently. From afar, the thing looks MASSIVE. 

edit: I was about to say it looks like some firefighters are there, but I guess not. Someone just threw additional tire on the pyre.

[10ebbor10]

I think that's kind off the point. The police is not going to charge straight through the fire, so...

[Sinistar]

I thought that was caused by the police, as apparently attack went of and I missed it.
What you are saying makes sense.
But the thing is still massive. But extreme situation breeds extreme tactics, I guess?

[XXSockXX]

Yeah, seems the fire was caused by the protesters. They were throwing molotov cocktails and now they are feeding it with car tires and stuff.
The police tried to break through with water cannons, but didn't seem to get very far while getting shot at with fireworks. The protesters seem pretty well organized and not panicky or something.
Definitely some eerie images, with the fire, people standing there relatively calm and the singing.

[Guardian G.I.]

Restrictions on movement of road traffic into Kiev have been placed by local authorities.
BBC claims that Ukrainian pro-opposition Channel 5 has been pulled off air by cable television providers across Ukraine.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Sinistar, speaking about opinion on police. You see, Police had many chances to choose sides, two months of mostly peaceful protests , a month after the first guys on our side got  killed. We tried to persuade them... Few did threw away their ammunition. Huge majority do prefer to follow the orders. What is worse some show quite a lot of enthusiasm doing so. Like destroying captured Ukrainian national flags. I can understand if they dislike red-black and others protersters may use, but a national one? WTF?
Add to that years of huge corruption in police... Yes, they are hated by many


My friend told  me about how he and another guy escorted one captured "prisoner" (not from police or internal forces, but one of that "titushkas", those paid thugs) to our base and had notable problems defending him from a dozen of 50 year+ women who were quite determined to rip that guy to pieces with their bare hands. Hate is building up