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Author Topic: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 26 - June 2091  (Read 36067 times)

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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 18 - Planet Choice
« Reply #270 on: February 13, 2014, 08:02:30 pm »

Ah, good.
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 18 - Planet Choice
« Reply #271 on: February 13, 2014, 08:44:49 pm »

So who is gonna name the algae?  First extraterrestrial life and all that.
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 18 - Planet Choice
« Reply #272 on: February 13, 2014, 09:56:45 pm »

Update 19
High Orbit of Toriga I, 2091

Heart of Gold moves to orbit Toriga I, to scope it out in more detail and for a possible landing.  Over the following weeks, they map out the planet's surface:


The projection is pretty bad; everything near the poles is stretched horizontally, but not vertically.
Lower elevations are darker colors.  The highlands are less flat than is implied by the shading - the contour lines are significant.

The white area represents the current antisolar side of the planet; the arrow in F16 points in the direction that area is "moving" in.  The color scheme is not accurate; in reality, the oceans are a reddish-orange color that deepens to a bright crimson in the more heavily algaeated areas.  The land is made up of various types rock, and has generally been shaped by either glacial or hydraulic sculpting, or by tectonic crushing in the highlands areas - there is no evidence of the algae having made significant changes to the landscape, and no recent volcanic activity.

The planet's dark side is frozen and generally inactive, with little weather activity noted and most of the oceans frozen over.  The land area is composed of either bare rock or icy rock, the ice being deposited in the dense storms which sweep in regularly from the terminator and remaining until the affected area has been thawed out.  Brown fields of dead algae are a common sight under the ice, as it does not seem to thrive in the freezing tempratures.

The light side of the planet is a fairly hot, dry wasteland most of the time, similar to a somewhat hotter and less blasted American Southwest in climate and form (the dark side is as well, but is much more icy.)  However, cyclones or similar storms are generated over the hot oceans in the subsolar areas frequently - one was in progress as the ship arrived in orbit, depositing water all over the low-lying costal areas which then runs down to the ocean or into various large bowl lakes.  These lakes are full of algae, and the ground in the  lowlands is generally covered with dying algae dropped by the last storm.  The rocky highlands making up the interior of the continents experiences far fewer of these storms - although some still clearly make it, and there are sometimes smaller desert storms, these areas tend to be very dry and jagged.

The permafrost line is generally a few hundred kilometers antisolar of the terminator, except at the poles where it spreads over into the light side.  Hot air from the subsolar areas is constantly flowing into the dark side around the tropics, bringing with it the warm, humid air which leaves the constant coating of ice in the tropical areas of the dark side.  A cold, dry wind flows back over the poles into the light side, keeping tempratures there low.  The low-level, fast winds here have converted the polar regions into blasted wastelands, with huge columns of stone and ice standing out above the surface.  These areas are probably the least hospitible places on the planet, without liquid water but with almost constant sandstorms.  The water which has somehow ended up here over time tends to make up the vividly red ice flats covering the rocky ground of these areas, only contributing to their striking and vaguely horrifying appearence.  However, the sub-polar zones are relatively stable atmospherically, and have a relatively cool but still positive temprature.

The rocks on the surface seem to be overwhelmingly metamorphic and sedimentary, with no sign of igneous rocks except for in one volcanic chain (from I5 to H9.)  Silicon, iron, and calcium compounds are all found in varying degrees, with silicate-based rock generally being dominant on the surface.  There is no soil to be found, though plenty of sand.  At this point, it appears that the radiation is overwhelmingly solar in origin, and varies seemingly randomly and arbitrarily but should not normally pose a significant health risk or much of a problem for any equipment.

There seem to be no real rivers, with irregular rivers at the trailing edge of the permafrost carving out paths for themselves but which not always being taken by the next cycle's thaw.  That thaw happens roughly every 45 Earth years, the length of Toriga I's day.  Toriga I's year, however, is a mere 22 Earth days.  Since this doesn't effect anything due to the world's practically nonexistant inclination, it has been decided to keep using Earth day-week-month-year terminology for clarity - even though all are completely unrelated to reality.

The planet's gravity is marked at 1.04g, and its atmospheric pressure at 1.15 atm.  The atmosphere consists of about 74% N2, 24% O2, .5% Ar, and .5% CO2.  Its radius is just under 6200 Km.



If you want to land on this planet, say where.  More specific information is available on request, for some things.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 09:30:29 am by Draxis »
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #273 on: February 14, 2014, 12:48:57 am »

I'd like to know the planet's inclination, and as such, the size of it's polar circle.
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #274 on: February 14, 2014, 04:26:56 am »

I think we should land somewhere in the sub-polar regions (actually, what parts of the map are polar, sub-polar and equatorial exactly?) as that means that we don't have to deal with the equatorial cyclones or the harsh polar winds. In addition we should land somewhere close to water, but sufficiently high up so that our settlement is at minimal risk from being flooded due to the regular thaws (also are they supposed to happen every 45 years if the orbital period of Toriga I is only 22 days?)
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 18 - Planet Choice
« Reply #275 on: February 14, 2014, 05:04:03 am »

The color scheme is not accurate; in reality, the oceans are a reddish-orange color that deepens to a bright crimson in the more heavily algaeated areas.



Yeah, currently more reddish than orange, but too orange and we will be getting a tad close to the current colour scheme of the rocks. Any wishes as per the colour-theme of those? Since it is only a few clicks away from happening, we might as well get as close to your imagination of it as we can~ ;D



I think we should land somewhere in the sub-polar regions as that means that we don't have to deal with the equatorial cyclones or the harsh polar winds. In addition we should land somewhere close to water, but sufficiently high up so that our settlement is at minimal risk from being flooded due to the regular thaws.

Sound reasoning. I would further suggest that we land on one of the two main-continents, to ease expansion.
C 15 comes to mind if we go for long-term growth. Elevated beyond flood, but in reach of the ocean. Question remains if it is sub-polar as we would like it to be...  :P
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #276 on: February 14, 2014, 05:55:56 am »

Well, we're certainly going to have to go to the subpolar areas. Weather will be more extreme, as depending on the planet's axis, the poles will have rapid climate shifts (Yearly, rather than daily).

We're certainly going to see lot's of storms.

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« Reply #277 on: February 14, 2014, 09:28:11 am »

I'd like to know the planet's inclination, and as such, the size of it's polar circle.
Got inclination and eccentricity confused; there is almost no inclination.  That combined with the long "days" means that the "polar areas" are just the zones permafrosted into the light side of the planet by the winds from the dark sides, which happens to cover the poles.  The weather there is quite stable, with nothing really shifting but the wind directions; it's just very unpleasant.
I think we should land somewhere in the sub-polar regions (actually, what parts of the map are polar, sub-polar and equatorial exactly?) as that means that we don't have to deal with the equatorial cyclones or the harsh polar winds.

also are they supposed to happen every 45 years if the orbital period of Toriga I is only 22 days?)
Polar would be A/L and part of the way into B/K.  Sub-polar would be the area between that and the 'tropical' areas, which are poorly defined but basically the closer to F/G you are the more tropical/equatorial it is.  For minimal extreme weather, somewhere from mid-B to high-D or mid-K to low-I would be ideal, though even here there is still some - especially at the terminator.

Toriga I completes a revolution around Toriga every 22 Earth days.  This period will be known as a revolution.  It completes a rotation around its axis every ~45 Earth years.  This period will be known as a cycle.  Days, weeks, months, and years refer to the Earth-based measurements, which are still used for convenience and because "days" and "years" are practically meaningless based on a Toriga I definition.

Yeah, currently more reddish than orange, but too orange and we will be getting a tad close to the current colour scheme of the rocks. Any wishes as per the colour-theme of those? Since it is only a few clicks away from happening, we might as well get as close to your imagination of it as we can~

C 15 comes to mind if we go for long-term growth. Elevated beyond flood, but in reach of the ocean. Question remains if it is sub-polar as we would like it to be...  :P
It would be sub-polar for the purposes of less extreme weather, basically always above freezing on the light side and quite stably frozen on the dark side.  It is also straight in the middle of the dark side currently, so for thr first 20 Earth-years or so it would be permafrost.  This could be seen as desirable or undesirable.

The color scheme for the rocks is pretty good as it is, except that the orange of the highlands should really be dullened and swapped with the greys and browns of the lowlands (and some more light grey), and the poles should be as bright red as the oceans are now, with the oceans being mostly orange but with large patches of that red in the light side.  This would not make for convenient map-reading, though, or for easy pallete-swapping, so don't worry about it.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2014, 11:08:13 am by Draxis »
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #278 on: February 14, 2014, 02:49:49 pm »

How about I8. It's just moved out of the frozen zone, so perhaps has some glaciers left. Weather shouldn't be that bad, and it's high and dry.
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« Reply #279 on: February 14, 2014, 04:49:33 pm »

But highlands make poor landing zone, and difficult to build early on. 18-C seems to be nice flatland surrounded by mountains with access trough mountains to south, and there you have 18-19 E-F thats open to the sea. I'd rather not have a hurricane...
20-21 D-G seems best place early on, flatlands to expand easily and surrounded by mountains for cover. 20-F?
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #280 on: February 14, 2014, 05:03:41 pm »

The highlighted area is the dark side of the planet. I prefer to start in the sun actually, close to the poles so as not to get to extreme weather.
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« Reply #281 on: February 14, 2014, 05:06:17 pm »

How about I8. It's just moved out of the frozen zone, so perhaps has some glaciers left. Weather shouldn't be that bad, and it's high and dry.

Should have moved out of the frozen zone about 4 to 6 years ago, but true enough, also ought to do the trick if the climate is right.

Going from the reverse angle ( C15 would seemingly have fit the bill ), we are one one space closer to the equator, implying the risk from hurricanes and stuff - luckily we are shielded from the "tropical" ocean by the continent. So unless we build towards the H8 Coastline, we ought to be safe, as the Ocean at J8 should not get hot enough for these kind of occurences.

Take note; these are assumptions of mine, and we might ask Draxis for confirmation on them. As I do with this sentence...  :P
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« Reply #282 on: February 14, 2014, 05:12:30 pm »

Bah, I thought highlighted was day-time. So 8-I seems the best bet, and it puts us middle of volcanic chain Draxis mentioned...
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« Reply #283 on: February 14, 2014, 05:24:46 pm »

I prefer  the north-western part of I-9 myself. North of that big lake. We will be nicely protected by the mountains from all sides but south... even then - lake is a smaller problem than an ocean
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Re: Outpost 5 - Suggestion Game - Update 19 - Planet Choice
« Reply #284 on: February 14, 2014, 05:29:00 pm »

Landing us in the middle of the hot-cold front could be problematic however. I mean, there's should pretty much be a permanent storm front over that area, so...
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