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[Ravendarksky]

Why not just have multiple hatches in a corridor? If you make it 5-6 tiles wide then it is trivial to station units on it. Not that difficult to have a 6x1 shaft onto 6 spear traps.

[greycat]

Wouldn't this work?

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########   H = Hatch
...HOO.#   . = Floor
########   O = Constructed wall

Dig three tiles beyond the hatch, then build the two constructed walls.  Station a squad on the unreachable tile at the end of the corridor.  The dwarves in the squad will choose a reachable tile within a radius of 3 from the station point, and the only reachable tile which qualifies is the Hatch.

[Dampe]

The Shaft of Enlightenment?
Is this thread some kind of dick joke?

[Ghoul]

The Shaft of Enlightenment?
Is this thread some kind of dick joke?

-_-

[HmH]

The Shaft of Enlightenment?
Is this thread some kind of dick joke?

We're giving the world itself a huge wooden strap-on and forcing dwarves to defend themselves against its overwhelmingly powerful thrusts.
I'm sure that at this level of magnitude, whatever we're doing to the test subjects goes beyond the realm of dick jokes and becomes a dildo-assisted atrocity.

[ImagoDeo]

The Shaft of Enlightenment?
Is this thread some kind of dick joke?

We're giving the world itself a huge wooden strap-on and forcing dwarves to defend themselves against its overwhelmingly powerful thrusts.
I'm sure that at this level of magnitude, whatever we're doing to the test subjects goes beyond the realm of dick jokes and becomes a dildo-assisted atrocity.

Don't do this to me when I'm at work. Loud embarassed giggle-cackling tends to upset bosses and notify superiors that I'm not actually transcribing videos.

[HmH]

Minor update: the exploit still works in .40.01.

[TheStratovarian]

Does falling into water with the spear trap change either the damage to less, or not trigger this odd aspect? like a 7/7 deal.

3 high, water spear trap at the 1 height, 7/7 dwarf is falling 3 squares, but does the swimming aspect let him step out without the same injury?

[Agent_Irons]

Minor update: the exploit still works in .40.01.

Unfortunately, that means that falling traps with spikes on the bottom less than 10z high are useless/a huge danger to the fort depending on altitude.

[ImagoDeo]

Minor update: the exploit still works in .40.01.

Unfortunately, that means that falling traps with spikes on the bottom less than 10z high are useless/a huge danger to the fort depending on altitude.

Just put cage traps in the bottom. Any stunned creature will be caught, and most creatures will be caught anyway. Live goblins are really useful for tragedy training: visible sentient death gives ranks in Discipline and hardens your dwarves to tragedy, no matter how you do it. My personal favorite style is public butchery in the dining hall, although it's less controlled than a 15-z fall into the same room.

[origamiscienceguy]

It seems that toady 1 has finally fixed this.

[Ruhn]

I saw that in the patch notes also.  Awaiting SCIENCE for confirmation.

[paldin]

I get the distinct impression that you can still use the shaft to enlighten your dwarfs, but it won't be an instantaneous jump to Legendary +85. Instead it'll be the max XP you'd normally earn from an action. With the risk of greatly injuring your dwarfs by repeated drops onto the shaft, you could still turn out a Legendary (+0) dwarf faster than any other danger room, with the right mechanical set up.

I've always been okay with certain exploits but not others. Atom smashing water (or anything really) for a nearly perfect repeater just seemed like too much suspension of disbelief. Does anyone know if a level set to repeat "Pull the lever" and "Do it now" priority cause a dwarf to stand there until either exhaustion or hunger? My goal is to have dwarfs march up the stairs and fall the minimum z-level onto the lightest wooden paved floor, with the lightest wooden training spears, while wearing the strongest metal armor possible; all season.

[ptb_ptb]

Does anyone know if a level set to repeat "Pull the lever" and "Do it now" priority cause a dwarf to stand there until either exhaustion or hunger?

I've used that combination recently, while trying to pin a dwarf to a spot as a prelude to knocking him into a cage trap for science purposes. They don't stick on the exact tile unless you assign them to a one-tile burrow at the instant they are there. Normally they pull the lever, walk away a few steps, go back pull again, walk away ...

Incidentally, I'm finding the uses of burrows to be rather patchy. Sometimes dwarves seems to ignore them entirely, sometimes they will 'freeze' if assigned to a burrow they are outside. Is that just me? :/

[HmH]

I saw that in the patch notes also.  Awaiting SCIENCE for confirmation.

Just tested it. Confirmed: the exploit no longer works.