NQT narrowed his eyes. Just as he'd long believed. Words are wind. Only logical appraisal of the vote record can show us the light.
Once again my analysis was vindicated but my vote choice wasn't: the players who I though were scum from their actions were (Caz and Max, my top picks!) But both Days I chose to follow what people said and play games of psychology. I though Jim was guilty for lying, but he wasn't. And I thought Max was innocent because otherwise he'd be an idiot, but he was an idiot. I feel like a tragic hero that ignored the prophecies to his peril. No longer! I will put faith in my scumetrics. Be right back: there's analysis to be done.
Picture time, huh? My headache wants to roleplay too.
So, NQT.
I've totally changed this post from how it had been. It had been filled with mockery and meanness. I had a headache, I had stress, you were lying and I caught you yet again - I was venting.
I vented for a good hour of typing, until I reached near the end. The topic looped back around for me to how Max had been a gentleman towards me, how I believe Max dropped his defense instead of taking what I believe (what I expected to come when I counterclaimed him) was reasonable action to try and save himself and further his Wincon. I really expected to play through a really hostile series of interactions that never came. And by the time in this post that I was ready to type that I was smiling at him too, that it wasn't just his ancestors smiling at him but me too - well. I found I didn't want to yell at you either anymore.
I'm still going to reveal your lies. I'm just going to do it much more nicely and without the sarcasm. Thanks, Max. But for your kind choices, this would -still- be playing out a lot more viciously even if the votes had still fallen where they did.
So, back to Scumhunting business. With a final toss of 'thank you' again to Max.Once again my analysis was vindicated but my vote choice wasn't: the players who I though were scum from their actions were (Caz and Max, my top picks!)
You've 'analyzed' a lot more than Caz and Max to be your top Scum picks. If what you said were true, you'd have listed Caz and Max consistently as your top picks, and really only them as those picks. But you didn't.
Caz and max were NOT your top picks, unless you call your top picks approximately a third to half of the total list of players. Jim, Persus13, and Imp also have topped your stated lists.
There's another possible, and actually more likely reason why you were able to 'accurately' notice that Max and Caz were Scum - because you shared a Scumchat with them. Somehow, despite your claim of those two being your top Scum picks, you managed repeatedly to shift your attention off of them. You claim that's because:
But both Days I chose to follow what people said and play games of psychology.
'Games of psychology', considering you didn't define those games at the time, that's hard to prove or disprove. But you didn't actually follow anyone with any of your votes, except for your very last vote change late D3. You picked a pretty bad reason to claim, because that one's verifiable and false.
With your first D2 vote, upon Jim, the only person you could have been following was yourself - yours was the first vote on Jim and your challenge was "OK Jim, please explain to me how night-killing town players is more productive."
Later you switch your vote to Caz, reason "Caz's day end lynch vote on Nerjin was an RVS vote!". Your vote is Caz's 2nd, following Toaster's single statement of Caz opening D2 with rolefishing. We could count this as your vote following someone else - except you cite that as why you didn't vote for your top Scumpicks, not why you did vote for them. Once Caz gets 4 votes, you soon switch back to Jim, "On a lynch-all-liars basis, my vote is going back to you: Jim." Again, your vote is the only one on Jim. And that's where you -leave- your vote for the end of D2. If you were prone to following others in voting, I rather suspect you wouldn't have switched off of Caz, given how you claim him today and before as someone you thought was Scum - one of your top picks. Yet you preferred to be the only vote on Jim at day end instead of participating in the lynch of someone you claim was one of your top Scum picks.
You open D3 with a vote on Max and the challenge "Max— You sheeped Jim's vote and left it there with this as your argument:" You unvote after he roleclaims. This behavior highlights that you are lying about him being a top Scum pick for you - when your top Scum pick roleclaims is it reasonable to drop your vote on him?
Then I counterclaim him - and you switch your vote to -me-. Again I ask, because it highlights that you are lying - when your top Scum pick roleclaims and then is counterclaimed - is it reasonable to vote for your Top Scum pick's counterclaimer?
It's hard to say that you are 'following anyone' in your vote on me - unless you're following me/yourself - Immediately before your vote I had posted my detailed case on you. But you, as an innocent townie (which you are not) with a top Scum pick who has claimed and been counterclaimed, with nothing proven yet - again I ask this to highlight that you are lying - is it reasonable to vote for your Top Scum pick's counterclaimer when she also states and offers reasons for high concern that you are Scum as well? As an innocent Townie - your primary focus should be on your Top Scum pick, yes? Sure, notice me, react to me, consider the validity of my Scumhunting. But you do something weird again.
"By this logic we should lynch Imp and win the game." We who, NQT? One good reason for Scum to risk a Claim D3 was for the game to be so close to over that a mislynch would likely seal the game for Scum. Any mislynch is acceptable, I guess? All works the same for the numbers to your perspective perhaps?
But then you go further - you switch your vote from me to -Persus-. You claim that Max was a top Scum pick for you (as of D3 he's your only surviving top Scum pick) - but here you are, with your top Scum pick claimed and counterclaimed, and you go from voting your top Scum pick's counterclaimer to voting for your top Scum pick's lynch target.
And were you following anyone? Why, yes you were. You were following your top Scum pick. And you kept following him, despite his prolonged quietness, despite challenges, despite your claimed Top Scum Pick having the votes of nearly every other player in the game.
I assume you did this because you were already pretty strongly identified as Scum - that you didn't think actual innocent-looking behavior would fool anyone - that the only hope there was for your Wincon was to get votes somehow off of Max and onto -anyone- (ideally Persus) else.
I feel like a tragic hero that ignored the prophecies to his peril.
*sighs and looks up at the post above this point*. So I spent an hour writing words of scorn intermixed with the truths above. Thank goodness, NQT, you included this line, and I interpreted it as I did.
Though it took me a good half hour to rewrite my post without the snark, it's a better post for it, and that wouldn't have happened but for my reaction to your words - and that they made me think so much of Max's attitude, intentions, and decisions. That's why I cleaned up -my- act too, and erased the ire from my posting. Thanks again, Max. The rest of the post didn't need changing - I conclude with it below.This. Now this I believe.
Scum is a team. Scum is a group. And I bet not all of these plans were yours, NQT. I bet there were prophecies of peril, and I bet you made several of them, but they were ignored. And maybe -you- had to ignore your own prophecies too, because you're part of a team that charged headlong into a dangerous strategy.
Or maybe the plan was yours. Either way, Yeah. I feel sorry for you. Not as sorry as I feel for Max, who was so much a gentleman in his play that I believe he -refused- to really try and save himself because it required taking actions he felt inappropriate to take against a newbie whose comments and questions had rekindled his interest in S Mafia games. I think he saw the ugliness of play required, maybe saw the ugliness I'd faced elsewhere so recently, and decided 'no, I won't go there'. Thanks, Max. I'm sorry I'm not a gentlewoman, and that I would rather chase my win than preserve your playtime. You are the very best of Scum, possibly the very best that Scum could be.
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