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[Andres]

Whelp. Better call the duel off.

• We've been made very well aware we stand no chance against him.
• Varrick wants a personal reward, better facilities for his men (what facilities?), and he wants the SMC to be our Varangian Guard (actually pretty awesome). Too Expensive.
• We don't want Barrick dead.
• We don't want Gerant dead now.

Let's just put Barrick on trial and Pheonix Wright the hell out of Gerant. We have a VERY strong defence. Ironclad one might say......

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Either Barrick - let's just say killed - killed Gerand's brother, and his father duelled him over it, the matter should've been settled after Barrick beat his father in the duel, which would mean Gerand could not duel us over his brother. If Gerand wants to duel Barrick because the duel between Barrick and Gerand's father is illegal, then right there is reason enough to not allow the duel since this duel (low-born vs Knight) would also be illegal.

Barrick's accepting of Gerant's father's challenge could be made out as a kind of self-defence if the duel is (was?) deemed illegal. If lawyers exist, we should be one of them. If Barrick loses, we may get a bit lucky; Gerant might've just wanted to put this behind him and get closure. He might not even demand Barrick's execution!
Inform Barrick of the change in plans and of his legal defence. Don't want it sneaking up on him.

That city guard scheme sounds like a good idea. Why's it shady though? We get soldiers and the city guard still gets recruits.

Tell Verack the duel is off. But also tell him what "better facilities" he has in mind and that you are thinking about putting them on retainer regardless. Also.....
Ask Verack about the Red Harriers. If there's bad blood between the two companies - however unlikely - it would be unwise to hire them.

Mlamlah, does the Silver Moon Company have a crest? What about "team colours"? If we put them on retainer we may or may not change them. Do we already officially own the SMC? It's a bit unclear at the moment.

EDIT: If we get dragged into a duel anyway, send Verack out. If the combatant is allowed to surrender the duel WITHOUT getting killed for it, we might want to send Barrick instead and end this troublesomeness.

[Mlamlah]

Mlamlah, does the Silver Moon Company have a crest? What about "team colours"? If we put them on retainer we may or may not change them. Do we already officially own the SMC? It's a bit unclear at the moment.

You have them under extended contract at the moment, though under that contract downtime has next to negligible cost beyond the feeding and equipping of the men, the latter of which is mostly provided for by the metalworking businesses working with you. They are all living and training in a converted warehouse currently, which was also purchased for dirt cheap by Verack.

Edit: The company does not currently have any crest or colors. They were pretty ragtag when you first hired them.

[Andres]

I edited my last post a fair bit. It's advisable to give it another look if you haven't already. Thanks for the info Mlamlah.

EDIT: If we put the SMC SMMC (Silver Moon Mercenary Company) on retainer, I have some ideas in improving its snazziness.

Retainer Upgrades

• Rename 'Silver Moon Mercenary Company' to 'Royal Silver Moon Company'
• A crest. Borders in the shape of a heater shield (Google Images). Borders colour: dark blue. A silver crescent moon in the centre (not made of actual silver). RSMC printed in silver (again, not real silver) above the moon and below the bottom border; print must be smaller than the moon, but large enough to be easily read. Background: darkish grey. (Borders are too fancy).
• Order tabards made with logo adorning front and back. Distribute to full members. Full moon instead of crescent moon for the captain. Recruits just get a darkish grey tabard.
• Order large tapestry with the logo made to adorn training area.
• Order flag/banner (whatever's in use in armies) with the logo. (Someone would have to carry the damn thing whenever they travel and RSMC/SMMC is too small to warrant having a banner carrier in battle).

[3man75]

First off let's just hold our horses on the mercenary company. We'll send a letter to Verack AFTER we've dealt with this duel thing.

Second Barrick may be right but we need to ask him IF we can survive the first blood match and if he's willing to tell us the story concerning the Knights brother and father. If he starts name calling or avoiding questions then remind him WE are literally what's stopping that knight right now. An that HIS rivalry with this man may cause a war, possibly 2 if we don't know the facts behind things.

Third if barrick IS innocent meaning he didn't kill the brother and the father challenged/struck first at him than we send him on a errand to Gerald where he's too talk him to Gerald to go easy on us during the duel explaining we are NOT the warrior he is. Tell him to make any promises necessary and that we'll go from there.

Fourth during the fight we  will look afraid but be determined to fight him 1 on 1. It'll make us look weak but maybe he'll go easy on us. Let's get bloodied and call it a day or surrender if we survive long enough for us to get tired.

Fifth After the fight just walk off the field with our wound and have it dressed. We are too do EVERYTHING in our power to stay alive. If it feels like he's going in a frenzy hacking at us than skip away or something and surrender. We can't always win. Don't talk to anybody and we should also ask Penrod to keep Ritalia away. She could get to emotional if she sees the fighting.

Sixth Contemplate some more about this situation we may need to extend our travel up to Gerands castle for the trail explaining we won't interfere but want to see a fair chance of barrick explaining himself. But let's analyze after the duel.

Also before the fight stretch and  get our muscles ready any way possible. We'll need our agility.

EDIT: Also god damn it how can we shake this foul mood? We should drink some wine after this alone for when we get to the sixth part of my plan...if we get there. or someone has something better.

EDIT 2: If he's dissuaded than lets just talk to him with barrick in a private room. On condition that after the talks with him and barrick that he won't kill or apprehend barrick in that room. Explain that we don't want blood in a marriage ceremony.

[Weirdsound]

The trial this guy wants will be far from our court, out of our control, likely rigged against our dude, and even with we show up and go all Ace Attorney on the bastard, we will come across as a meddling forigen prince out to subvert Adalbertian justice for his own gain. Unless we can talk him into allowing Penrod to run the trial so it can be rigged in our favor, the trial is the worst possible idea.

Right now, I'm thinking a decent idea, should our sister fail, is to convince Gerand to move the duel to his own country, where there will be fewer of our own people to witness it, let him win and smooth out his honor by giving him a weak mercenary recruit to kill in a duel, and then report home in such a way that mitigates the impact of our loss.

[3man75]

We don't know what kind of justice he wants though. He just said "i want barric to be taken back to my country for trial on murder". An his familly means a lot to him. Maybe we though we could get Prince Penrod to judge the trial.


We can't let barrick go Scot free...maybe have him beaten by the injured party but not killed. If he goes scot free we'll look like we're rigging things, so we need to give a little. It won't make Gerald happy that barrick can still be alive BUT at least he can walk away with some justice.

So far i think we should go for the first blood match between him and us since we know we can't kill him and Penrod promised a small copensation for keeping the Knight alive during this ordeal. Again, we can't let Penrod lose too much face (poor guy lost an eye already lol) or whatever war he's apart of will be dismantled because his vassals don't want to support him.

EDIT: "You murmur that you are, and the Knight deftly removes his gauntlet and tosses it in the dirt in front of you. To Penrod, the Knight says that he will withdraw the challenge if you put Barick in his custody to face charges of murder. You do not need the statement to be translated." From we first meet this knight.

The challenge he made is to make us back down and give barrick. But win or lose it dosen't matter so long as we survive. Because once the challenge is over, he has no more ammou to expend on getting barrick and we can just give him a straight up "No" if he tries.

[Weirdsound]

I'd rather handle this in such a way that we don't appear cowardly or lose too much face either. Alive is good, alive with our reputation intact is better. If Penrod rigs the trial, we need not even attend, and any lost face will be on him, not us.

Likewise, if we do intend to pick a fight that we can't win, we should do it as far from our own court as possible.

[3man75]

True, i also believe it should be far away from our court. so as we don't look to weak. After the trial if Gerand Makes a big deal about it we'll talk to Penrod about setting up a rigged trial. As much as i don't want him to lose face, i think it needs to be him not us. Yes, i changed my opinion again.

Make whatever efforts possible to not have our court or any annalysian nobles show up. Or at least minimize there attendance. Cane we keep the duel secluded in a backyard or barracks that's never used? If yes try to do that.

[Weirdsound]

No. Then if word gets out, we come across as extra cowardly. If we go to their country, and duel shortly before heading back, we control the narrative of what happens, and can spin the story to our countrymen however we wish.

[3man75]

Sound, the problem is... the challenge is at first light tomorrow. Can we even get him to reschedule that far back?

The guys probably been up all night with his blood pulsing. (Actually we need to sleep first. Maybe go talk to him before we go to sleep?)

[Weirdsound]

In the last post, we gave our servants orders to wake us up early so we can piss around before first light.

[3man75]

True and we should use that time to stretch and get ready. I think i made a post of 6 things regarding that.

Again though, we can't reschedule therefore we need to see what we can do about making sure the word dosen't get out too much OR we can hold the duel somewhere privately.

Maybe if there is such a place than we could send a messege to Gerald about it.

Or just ask Verack to duel him to first blood. That way neither dies, we can just walk away, and Penrod gives us that small copensation for Gerald not being dead.

It'll be expensive but maybe Penrods copensation will pay out well. W.e it is.

[Andres]

First off let's just hold our horses on the mercenary company. We'll send a letter to Verack AFTER we've dealt with this duel thing.

We could just send him a quick letter along with the summons to the duel if that's what we decide. We have options.

Third if barrick IS innocent meaning he didn't kill the brother and the father challenged/struck first at him than we send him on a errand to Gerald where he's too talk him to Gerald to go easy on us during the duel explaining we are NOT the warrior he is. Tell him to make any promises necessary and that we'll go from there.

I don't think it's wise to have Barrick and Gerand in the same room without an sensible amount of armed guards there as well.

Fifth After the fight just walk off the field with our wound and have it dressed. We are too do EVERYTHING in our power to stay alive. If it feels like he's going in a frenzy hacking at us than skip away or something and surrender. We can't always win. Don't talk to anybody and we should also ask Penrod to keep Ritalia away. She could get to emotional if she sees the fighting.

+1 if and only if we end up fighting him. -1 to keeping Ritalia away. She probably won't freak out and if she does it might be the only thing stopping Gerand from delivering a finishing blow.

The trial this guy wants will be far from our court, out of our control, likely rigged against our dude, and even with we show up and go all Ace Attorney on the bastard, we will come across as a meddling forigen prince out to subvert Adalbertian justice for his own gain. Unless we can talk him into allowing Penrod to run the trial so it can be rigged in our favor, the trial is the worst possible idea.

To Penrod, the Knight says that he will withdraw the challenge if you put Barick in his custody to face charges of murder.

He only said he wants him in custody. We'll agree to the demand but only on the condition that, as the vassal of an Analyssian in Analyssian lands, he should be judged in an Analyssian trial. Even if it were to be held in Koringberg, the trial would be presided over by Penrod and he'll probably demand something non-lethal as punishment at worst (wouldn't want to make his brother-in-law unhappy. He'll want the judgement to be satisfactory for both parties.)

True, i also believe it should be far away from our court. so as we don't look to weak. After the trial if Gerand Makes a big deal about it we'll talk to Penrod about setting up a rigged trial. As much as i don't want him to lose face, i think it needs to be him not us. Yes, i changed my opinion again.

Make whatever efforts possible to not have our court or any annalysian nobles show up. Or at least minimize there attendance. Cane we keep the duel secluded in a backyard or barracks that's never used? If yes try to do that.

No. Then if word gets out, we come across as extra cowardly. If we go to their country, and duel shortly before heading back, we control the narrative of what happens, and can spin the story to our countrymen however we wish.

I agree with Weirdsound on this. Who knows what rumours the nobles will concoct if we don't allow some of them to set the record straight.

Or just ask Verack to duel him to first blood. That way neither dies, we can just walk away, and Penrod gives us that small copensation for Gerald not being dead.

It'll be expensive but maybe Penrods copensation will pay out well. W.e it is.

+1! This solves everything! A resolution is made, we get to see Verack fight (with his bitching claymore), we'll be able to afford him fighting (but if he loses I think we can give him nothing... PROFIT!!!), nobody dies, we won't get chewed apart, and everyone lives happily ever after. The end.

[3man75]

Andres i'm going to skip to you last point. First thank you for supporting me because it's really the best option (why didn't we think about this before dammit!). However, i don't think he can use a claymore in a duel..dosen't sound fair or duely. Mlam could Verack and Gerald use alternate weapons like this or are they stuck with sheild/sword or some other cutting/stabby weapon?

Also once this is over, what does gerand have left? If he loses he basically gets shown up for being a bully and if he wins than what? Some of penrods vassal like him more/think he's right about barrick? Hell once this challenge is done he has NO POWER over us to give up barrick. We could always just set up a rigged trial but i just want to point that out.

We can debate that second paragraph later i just really want to see an epic fight between a merc captain and a Bad ass no nonsense knight.

[Weirdsound]

Andres i'm going to skip to you last point. First thank you for supporting me because it's really the best option (why didn't we think about this before dammit!). However, i don't think he can use a claymore in a duel..dosen't sound fair or duely. Mlam could Verack and Gerald use alternate weapons like this or are they stuck with sheild/sword or some other cutting/stabby weapon?

Also once this is over, what does gerand have left? If he loses he basically gets shown up for being a bully and if he wins than what? Some of penrods vassal like him more/think he's right about barrick? Hell once this challenge is done he has NO POWER over us to give up barrick. We could always just set up a rigged trial but i just want to point that out.

We can debate that second paragraph later i just really want to see an epic fight between a merc captain and a Bad ass no nonsense knight.

It is a good idea, I'm just not sure such a duel will satisfy said no nonsense knight.