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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #465 on: August 18, 2014, 10:06:46 am »

Hey, umm, so our ship. It was kind of a dump so we named it after dearest daddy's contemptuous concubine but now that we're upgrading it and making it more.... pristine, should we consider renaming it? Unless we intend to use it as a fire boat or maybe just set it on fire or something. I've heard that IRL it's bad luck to rename a boat though.

In the game everything is run by dice. We can name it the HMS ((if we use that if not leave it out)) Quick service.

Why? because it's doing trade runs for us and because it can be used to provide that type of small service to the Kelshians.

EDIT: Do we know what we're doing yet as far the dueling/honor thing yet?
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« Reply #466 on: August 18, 2014, 05:23:49 pm »

Hey, umm, so our ship. It was kind of a dump so we named it after dearest daddy's contemptuous concubine but now that we're upgrading it and making it more.... pristine, should we consider renaming it? Unless we intend to use it as a fire boat or maybe just set it on fire or something. I've heard that IRL it's bad luck to rename a boat though.

In the game everything is run by dice. We can name it the HMS ((if we use that if not leave it out)) Quick service.

Why? because it's doing trade runs for us and because it can be used to provide that type of small service to the Kelshians.

EDIT: Do we know what we're doing yet as far the dueling/honor thing yet?
We should definitely give it a female name since giving a ship a male name is also bad luck. Maybe if one of the Keshlian merchants was female we can name it after her? Or maybe one of our younger sisters. I'd say name it after the youngest (Mary I think it was).

I think it's 2:1 that we blood duel him instead of death duel him.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #467 on: August 18, 2014, 06:17:41 pm »

I should be updating tonight, after i finish up some personal errands.

Mind Altering drugs both magical and mundane exist in the setting, but currently your character has little to no IC information about any of that. As for the enchantment of animals? It is sometimes done, though any long-lasting enchantment is very expensive. Some enchantments also occassionally kill or cripple living animals, for example, a sharpening enchantment on a dog's teeth, without any additional enchantments, bears the possibility of resulting in the dog destroying their jaw shortly afterwards.
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« Reply #468 on: August 18, 2014, 07:21:53 pm »

Actually the idea was to kind of get some teeth gauntlets and enchant them. Like how you put on a gauntlet on your hand, it goes over the hand and it's shaped like the hand and the hand doesn't get removed. Maybe enchant the inside to stick to the dogs teeth (like glue) and the outside to do the metal-chomping. Unless I'm woefully misunderstanding how enchanting works.

Also, I've remembered that it's not bad luck to rename a boat so long as you have a virgin pee on the deck to christen its new name. Really we should be asking Sir Bepher about this stuff. He'd probably know.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #469 on: August 18, 2014, 09:30:28 pm »

Before we go out to korinberg as escort, Let's talk to the court mage from the school of Ebonmor about being given a mage from his side. There used in peacetime as spymasters and should help us countering these terrible dreams. Make it a preference to be someone young, that way we can develop a friendship with them.
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« Reply #470 on: August 18, 2014, 10:41:50 pm »

Before we go out to korinberg as escort, Let's talk to the court mage from the school of Ebonmor about being given a mage from his side. There used in peacetime as spymasters and should help us countering these terrible dreams. Make it a preference to be someone young, that way we can develop a friendship with them.
-1. If he's young then he wouldn't know much magic. We only got as far as we did because of our prodigiousness and really the best we can do is scrying so we shouldn't expect too much from an apprentice - he himself is probably learning or has just finished mastering scrying. Even if his master allows him to come, and he himself wants to come, we'll be splitting our time between too many people on the trip to Koringberg. On top of that we might not know where the court mage is so we would have to spend time looking for him. Finally, if we want to counter the nightmares we should have a Warden, not an Ebonmar. The Wardens' specialties are: Scrying/Infiltration/Thievery. The Ebonmars' are: Scrying/Divination/Communication. It would be a waste of time trying to get an Ebonmar apprentice to join us.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #471 on: August 18, 2014, 10:50:13 pm »

Point taken. But we really should find up on this issue, maybe ask mother/queen about it before departing?
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« Reply #472 on: August 19, 2014, 12:24:53 am »

I doubt she'd know anything either but if Ritalia wanted to say goodbye to her we could tag along and ask her while we're with the both of them.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #473 on: August 19, 2014, 12:49:52 am »

Raynor Casar, Royal Prince of Analysse, popular claimant on the future crown.
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Summoning the best of your composure, you sternly rebuke the vassal of your brother in law, in his own language, which you manage to speak in almost fluently. "You show great impudence. You've the presumption to not only interrupt your lord in private discussion, but also to assault my servant and challenge a boy less than half your age to combat?" You snort derisively. "If you had a claim to justice you should have simply made it known, instead you've insulted your host in the name of drama."
The Knight furrows his brow in anger, but the point doesn't seem entirely lost on him, and for a moment he says nothing, but given that moment he does respond. "I must have justice for my brother, and for my father, too long has it been denied. The drifter must pay. If you will not give him to me i will have satisfaction."
Gesturing towards Serles, who is now on his feet and dusting himself off, you respond. "I must have satisfaction too, you've insulted me and my servants. To answer that insult i ask for a duel to first blood, you and me."

At this the Adalbertian seems exasperated, and stutters in delivering his speech. "I do not wish to bleed a boy. I wish to kill your savage dog. I will give you until tomorrow's first light, fight me if you feel you must, but i want the murderer you harbor." At that he storms off, shaking in anger.

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Penrod explains the history of the situation to you. The Knight is named Gerand, who's father was a count underneath Penrod's father. Nearly two decades ago his older brother ran off to adventure with Barick,when they were both still young. This brother was heir to the county, and his very close friendship with a lowborn man was frowned upon to begin with. A few years later, Barick returned home with the corpse of his companion. The boy's father, aggrieved, challenged Barick to single combat, during which Barick slew the much older combatant. As a lowborn man, Barick had no rights to single combat, so it was legally unclear wether this absolved him of killing a member of nobility. Barick left Koringberg before the matter could be settled, and the next time he was seen was as a man at arms underneath your father, where he was more or less untouchable.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #474 on: August 19, 2014, 08:21:07 am »

Accept the duel to the death. Appoint Varick of the Silver Moon Company as your champion. This was suggested below, so I'm bringing it up here

Or, do not accept the duel to the death on the grounds of being 13.. Question his honor and bravery if he is only willing to fight against a child.

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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #475 on: August 19, 2014, 09:54:33 am »

He doesn't want to duel us, he just wants barrick. Tell barrick about the situation but dammit we are keeping him around. He's been too good to us to just let go because this guy doesn't want to admit that it's not his fault. Ask barrick also about his brother what he was like and how he died. Was it on the field?


Really i don't think he can do much except talk trash about how we're harboring a "murderor" but we can simply rebute him infront of his fellow Adalbertian nobles. However, maybe we should do a trial. Ask who was there when his father fought barrick. Among other things and paint it like there really wasn't alot barrick the low-born could do.

EDIT: actually let's do that. A war of words between us and him in. With all of his fellow nobles around him ((BUT NOT PENROD, Tell him to take ritalia somewhere safe and not to worry about us while we fix this.)) so that they can all see his foolishness. All we have to do is paint the picture of Barrick just being a mercenary who befriended his brother and defended himself against his father when HE challenged him to a duel. Make it a point that low-born or not he had to choose between defending himself or dying for a crime he never committed. In fact the only crime there was in this story, if you could call it that, was a mistake on Gerand's older brother for taking a personnel decision while young to adventure. His brother was not the victim to murder but simply found bad luck in his road to through life. Something that happens to nobles or low-born whether they want to admit it or not.

Any phoenix wright gamers amongst us? This was just something i put together. oh an if your asking why keep penrod out, it's because they are his vassals and it would make him look like an ass kisser if he took our side. At least this way he rep won't get tarnished in any way i hope.
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Re: Prince: of Lords and Sorcerers
« Reply #476 on: August 19, 2014, 10:13:32 am »

Ask Penrod about the importance and influence of Gerand. Killing him might be a poor idea if doing so would lead to an international incident. Also ask, that if this situation cannot be brought to a satisfactory conclusion, if Penrod can have Gerand and his retainers ride ahead or behind of the party on the trip; The last thing anybody needs is this mess flaring up on the road.

If Gerand is influential, I feel the only good option is to give him a duel with Barick. That way, if he loses, it will seem that he has been hoisted by his own petard, having gotten the fight he wanted, as opposed to screwed by a cunning foreign prince. We should allow such a duel only if Penrod or Gerand agrees to offer us a bodyguard of equal caliber should Barick be slain.

He doesn't want to duel us, he just wants barrick. Tell barrick about the situation but dammit we are keeping him around. He's been too good to us to just let go because this guy doesn't want to admit that it's not his fault. Ask barrick also about his brother what he was like and how he died. Was it on the field?


Really i don't think he can do much except talk trash about how we're harboring a "murderor" but we can simply rebute him infront of his fellow Adalbertian nobles. However, maybe we should do a trial. Ask who was there when his father fought barrick. Among other things and paint it like there really wasn't alot barrick the low-born could do.

He wants to run the trial himself, so it wouldn't be fair. Also, I do not want to go on a long journey with both Gerand and Barrick in the party. That is just inviting trouble. If anything were to happen to either, the other would take the blame, even if they were not at fault, and that would cause a diplomatic nightmare.
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« Reply #477 on: August 19, 2014, 10:23:03 am »

Ask Penrod about the importance and influence of Gerand. Killing him might be a poor idea if doing so would lead to an international incident. Also ask, that if this situation cannot be brought to a satisfactory conclusion, if Penrod can have Gerand and his retainers ride ahead or behind of the party on the trip; The last thing anybody needs is this mess flaring up on the road.

If Gerand is influential, I feel the only good option is to give him a duel with Barick. That way, if he loses, it will seem that he has been hoisted by his own petard, having gotten the fight he wanted, as opposed to screwed by a cunning foreign prince. We should allow such a duel only if Penrod or Gerand agrees to offer us a bodyguard of equal caliber should Barick be slain.

He doesn't want to duel us, he just wants barrick. Tell barrick about the situation but dammit we are keeping him around. He's been too good to us to just let go because this guy doesn't want to admit that it's not his fault. Ask barrick also about his brother what he was like and how he died. Was it on the field?


Really i don't think he can do much except talk trash about how we're harboring a "murderor" but we can simply rebute him infront of his fellow Adalbertian nobles. However, maybe we should do a trial. Ask who was there when his father fought barrick. Among other things and paint it like there really wasn't alot barrick the low-born could do.

He wants to run the trial himself, so it wouldn't be fair. Also, I do not want to go on a long journey with both Gerand and Barrick in the party. That is just inviting trouble. If anything were to happen to either, the other would take the blame, even if they were not at fault, and that would cause a diplomatic nightmare.

All fair points. +1
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« Reply #478 on: August 19, 2014, 10:43:46 am »

Actually, come to think of it, this might be our first, best, and last opportunity to take advantage of the fact that Ritalia is listed as "Loving and Protective, deeply loyal."

If the she were to come to Gerand, pleading with him not to harm her brother's safety by taking away his best bodyguard at a time of extreme danger, or dignity by forcing him to capitulate to his demands or fight a lopsided duel, perhaps also implying that he doesn't want to make an enemy of the person who holds his master's ear and bed, we might have a chance of defusing this situation quietly and peacefully.
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« Reply #479 on: August 19, 2014, 11:54:36 am »

Actually, come to think of it, this might be our first, best, and last opportunity to take advantage of the fact that Ritalia is listed as "Loving and Protective, deeply loyal."

If the she were to come to Gerand, pleading with him not to harm her brother's safety by taking away his best bodyguard at a time of extreme danger, or dignity by forcing him to capitulate to his demands or fight a lopsided duel, perhaps also implying that he doesn't want to make an enemy of the person who holds his master's ear and bed, we might have a chance of defusing this situation quietly and peacefully.

Holy mother of god. the hell with what i've said. All of it.

Let's try and do this first before first light tomorrow. If this does not work then back to this suggestion:
Ask Penrod about the importance and influence of Gerand. Killing him might be a poor idea if doing so would lead to an international incident. Also ask, that if this situation cannot be brought to a satisfactory conclusion, if Penrod can have Gerand and his retainers ride ahead or behind of the party on the trip; The last thing anybody needs is this mess flaring up on the road.

If Gerand is influential, I feel the only good option is to give him a duel with Barick. That way, if he loses, it will seem that he has been hoisted by his own petard, having gotten the fight he wanted, as opposed to screwed by a cunning foreign prince. We should allow such a duel only if Penrod or Gerand agrees to offer us a bodyguard of equal caliber should Barick be slain.

He doesn't want to duel us, he just wants barrick. Tell barrick about the situation but dammit we are keeping him around. He's been too good to us to just let go because this guy doesn't want to admit that it's not his fault. Ask barrick also about his brother what he was like and how he died. Was it on the field?


Really i don't think he can do much except talk trash about how we're harboring a "murderor" but we can simply rebute him infront of his fellow Adalbertian nobles. However, maybe we should do a trial. Ask who was there when his father fought barrick. Among other things and paint it like there really wasn't alot barrick the low-born could do.

He wants to run the trial himself, so it wouldn't be fair. Also, I do not want to go on a long journey with both Gerand and Barrick in the party. That is just inviting trouble. If anything were to happen to either, the other would take the blame, even if they were not at fault, and that would cause a diplomatic nightmare.
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