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Total Members Voted: 23

[USEC_OFFICER]

Neferis could support Dumah's weight on two hands. EASILY.

Neferis OP, nerf plz. Seriously though, is that how the math actually works out to be? How dense/strong is Dumah?

She could shove it about quite easily, though.Bismuth could probably manage it too. She's still around, I completely forgot about her! D:

What about Joan? Or Asuna and the other Selenites?

[IamanElfCollaborator]

If Anima comes, Anansi, Sobek probably.

[Twi]

Well.

Dumah masses 66 metric tons.

With the estimate I got of hand area, and standard acceleration of gravity...

The pressure on Nef's hands would be 150 megapascals.

Granite's strength is ten to seventy GIGAPASCALS.

Elf's estimate was based on brick, which 'only' gives a range of say, 210 megapascals to 420 megapascals.

Also, Joan and Asuna are not strength specialists. Selebren has 30, though, so if she was around she could assist. She is not around.

[Empiricist]

Annie and Wheatley could work rather well. Assuming of course they stop bothering ressembling human beings (since having consolidated distortions perfectly repiclate a human body requires so much power that it's practically impossible) and temporarily deconsolidate their bodies into high power tears in reality that destroy everything inside them short of souls.

[USEC_OFFICER]

-snip-

Well... shit. So really, the only thing stopping Neferis from whipping Dumah around like nothing is leverage, right?

[Twi]

That, and Elf's estimate of her lifting capacity  (about three or four times her body mass- normal people get it to about 1.25 male or 0.81 female). Obviously, this is not NEARLY enough to lift the 66 ton Dumah. Still, with some work...

[Akroma]

yeah, she is rather small, so her angle of attack is rather far away from the enemies center of gravity. rather than just shoving her, you would kinda..topple her? Spin her around and make her fall right on top of you with a well aimed body check.


thats why I suggest Bismuth should try and cut of the tip of one of the legs. that leg would make a perfect point of attack in toppling her

[Twi]

It's in the action list now. I forgot Bismuth existed the rest of the battle for some reason. :I

[USEC_OFFICER]

That, and Elf's estimate of her lifting capacity  (about three or four times her body mass- normal people get it to about 1.25 male or 0.81 female). Obviously, this is not NEARLY enough to lift the 66 ton Dumah. Still, with some work...

Three to four times her mass is more than enough to move Demah's leg around though. She weighs a couple metric tons, after all (which also means that she's denser than granite, but eh).

[Twi]

Not enough to LIFT it. Dumah masses 66 tons, remember? At two to three metric tons, Neferis could lift six to twelve metric tons. If we assume it would take a third of Dumah's weight to lift up one leg, that'd be 22 metric tons.

However, with what Akroma pointed out about center of gravity, combined with the fact that Dumah is continuously on poor footing? In theory, toppling Dumah would be easy. Child's play, even.

[Akroma]

well, even with the best ideas, the dice giveth, the dice taketh away

[USEC_OFFICER]

Not enough to LIFT it. Dumah masses 66 tons, remember? At two to three metric tons, Neferis could lift six to twelve metric tons. If we assume it would take a third of Dumah's weight to lift up one leg, that'd be 22 metric tons.

However, with what Akroma pointed out about center of gravity, combined with the fact that Dumah is continuously on poor footing? In theory, toppling Dumah would be easy. Child's play, even.

Argh, yeah, you're right. Quick head math was wrong. Sorry.

well, even with the best ideas, the dice giveth, the dice taketh away

Who cares about the dice, we have science!

[Akroma]

again, if you bring science in, then 66 tons balanced on 3 sharp points would probably just dig deep into the ground, making the angel rooted firmly in place, as if nailed there

[Twi]

Rag seems to feel that fluff should come before mechanics, not the other way around. If fluff and physics should suggest Neferis could easily knock Dumah over, the DC would probably be something like 50 STR.

again, if you bring science in, then 66 tons balanced on 3 sharp points would probably just dig deep into the ground, making the angel rooted firmly in place, as if nailed there

Dumah entropy's the ground its feet touch. Hence it probably provides enough force from that to keep it level and surfaced, which also adds to its aforementioned poor traction. Heck, realistically it'd probably be able to provide MUCH more than that, but eh.

[Akroma]

it may also dissolve Neferis hands if she tries to push