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[smjjames]

True and good point. However, 'Greg' was the only one with the plan and since the thrall over those is now broken, the vampires that were sent ahead might change their minds.

[Egan_BW]

We do actually know for sure that Greg sent a spawn off to dominate the council, because that happened on-screen. We also saw one spawn flee after Belkar went sexy-shoeless-god-of-war mode.

[smjjames]

I checked back and yeah, you're right, he sent off the ex-exarch and a nameless vampire who is obviously meant to be a redshirt to start the preparations. I forgot about that I guess.

Still, if I remember correctly, the negative energy spirit is one that Hel personally sent (despite the fact that Malack was worshipping a completely different god) and personally gave instructions to, we don't know if she did the same for the other thralls and there's no telling what the two other vampires will do when the thrall gets removed.

[Rolan7]

Oh hey, that's an interesting point.  I think Hel provides the negative energy spirits for all the dwarven husks, but who provided Poncho's spirit?

I don't think it's going to be plot-important, but she's an interesting exception.

[smjjames]

Well, she was part of the group worshipping elemental Earth, so, I guess that one would either be up for grabs, under the purview of whichever of the other two pantheons she'd have defaulted under, or just been a generic negative energy spirit. The mechanics of how that works aside from the dwarves hasn't been explained for the in-comic universe.

[scriver]

Where did "Greg" come from?

[smjjames]

No idea on the specifics of where the name 'Greg' came from, it's a nickname given to vampireDurkon by members of the GitP forum.

If you mean 'where did the vampire spirit named Greg come from', Hel says it outright in http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html

[scriver]

No, I meant the name

[Egan_BW]

There are northerner humans, and they have the same gods as the dwarves. Presumably a northern human would get their vampire spirit from Hel too, because she's the goddess of death for the north. But I dunno where poncho was originally from.

Also, Greg.

[Akura]

Xykon plan on summoning and "controlling" the Snarl, remember? Except all the ritual pieces are known only to Redcloak, and iirc he said controlling the Snarl was impossible.

Spoiler: The Plan (click to show/hide)

Xykon's plan is to control the Snarl, to destroy the world if he ever got bored enough to - being undead, boredom seems to be his primary motivation. Redcloak's plan, is to teleport the Snarl out of its prison to the godly planes at his own god's discretion, basically allowing the Dark One to hold all the gods and their creation hostage in an effort to give goblinoids equal rights all the other races. As it is, goblins only exist as Evil fodder for low-level adventurers and violent racists. The ritual they plan to cast actually teleports the Gate, and has two components: an arcane one(which teleports it), and a divine part(which determines where it teleports to). Redcloak has been lying to Xykon about how the spell works, and probably plans to sunder the lich's phylactery once the spell is complete.

[Xantalos]

Xykon plan on summoning and "controlling" the Snarl, remember? Except all the ritual pieces are known only to Redcloak, and iirc he said controlling the Snarl was impossible.

Spoiler: The Plan (click to show/hide)

Xykon's plan is to control the Snarl, to destroy the world if he ever got bored enough to - being undead, boredom seems to be his primary motivation. Redcloak's plan, is to teleport the Snarl out of its prison to the godly planes at his own god's discretion, basically allowing the Dark One to hold all the gods and their creation hostage in an effort to give goblinoids equal rights all the other races. As it is, goblins only exist as Evil fodder for low-level adventurers and violent racists. The ritual they plan to cast actually teleports the Gate, and has two components: an arcane one(which teleports it), and a divine part(which determines where it teleports to). Redcloak has been lying to Xykon about how the spell works, and probably plans to sunder the lich's phylactery once the spell is complete.

Spoiler: Mega-big spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is the issue of the Monster in the Dark being under a compulsion to eat Redcloak and spit his amulet out if he ever betrays Xykon, though.

Though that isn't much of a failsafe anymore due to Redcloak's whole substitution ploy.

[smjjames]

Xykon plan on summoning and "controlling" the Snarl, remember? Except all the ritual pieces are known only to Redcloak, and iirc he said controlling the Snarl was impossible.

Spoiler: The Plan (click to show/hide)

Xykon's plan is to control the Snarl, to destroy the world if he ever got bored enough to - being undead, boredom seems to be his primary motivation. Redcloak's plan, is to teleport the Snarl out of its prison to the godly planes at his own god's discretion, basically allowing the Dark One to hold all the gods and their creation hostage in an effort to give goblinoids equal rights all the other races. As it is, goblins only exist as Evil fodder for low-level adventurers and violent racists. The ritual they plan to cast actually teleports the Gate, and has two components: an arcane one(which teleports it), and a divine part(which determines where it teleports to). Redcloak has been lying to Xykon about how the spell works, and probably plans to sunder the lich's phylactery once the spell is complete.

Spoiler: Mega-big spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is the issue of the Monster in the Dark being under a compulsion to eat Redcloak and spit his amulet out if he ever betrays Xykon, though.

Though that isn't much of a failsafe anymore due to Redcloak's whole substitution ploy.

Spoiler: also big spoiler (click to show/hide)

I hadn't heard of Monster in the Dark being under a compulsion to do that. Redcloak is likely aware of the compulsion.

Also, there is that revelation of the Snarl containing an entire world inside it (and the Snarl is supposed to be pure chaos), and one portal even showed an ocean. That is a pretty big chekovs gun that is going to drop at some point since very few characters have actually seen the revelation.

[Xantalos]

Spoiler: In response to above (click to show/hide)

It happened in Start of Darkness, the villain-centered prequel, just after Xykon became a lich.

[crazyabe]

Spoiler: Amusing thought/Potential Spoiler (click to show/hide)

We have an entire missing Pantheon which was supposedly eaten by the Snarl, the Snarl which happens to contain an entire world- what are the odds they are 100% alive and well- just pulling the strings as it were to keep everyone out of their little private world?

[MrWiggles]

Spoiler: Amusing thought/Potential Spoiler (click to show/hide)

We have an entire missing Pantheon which was supposedly eaten by the Snarl, the Snarl which happens to contain an entire world- what are the odds they are 100% alive and well- just pulling the strings as it were to keep everyone out of their little private world?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 The only thing we know about the snarl, is that its the end bits of creation that they couldnt neatly sew into the universe. So its in and out of this universe. Which to mean says, that its free to do whatever. We can assume that the oldest gods, can be fine outside of this universe, as they had to be outside of it in order to create the comic reality.  So the lost gods, either cant or dont want to return to the comic reality. But its impossible to answer what the snarl can do, and whats outside the snarl.