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[xana55]

Anyone got any idea how many elven caravans I have to destroy and loot before they get angry with me? I settled in the one place without goblins so I'm causing international incidents to entertain myself. I'm almost looking forward to starting a war with the elves, dirty tree humping beardless morons.

[Imp]

Sometimes one is enough.

[itg]

Use dfhack's fixdiplomats command. It just fixes the bug that causes elven diplomats not to show up. Then kill the diplomat.

[xana55]

Is it maybe that I'm not leaving any survivors?  I've destroyed two caravan's entirely.

[Matoro]

I think that offering them wood and seizing everything and then killing all but one (let the one escape and tell others about the horrors) will make them much more angrier.

Also I'd suggest you to fix elven diplomats - add this to entity_default.txt (into elven part, it's right after list of dwarven nobles):

Code: [Select]

[POSITION:DIPLOMAT]
[NAME:diplomat:diplomats]
[NUMBER:1]
[RESPONSIBILITY:MAKE_INTRODUCTIONS]
[RESPONSIBILITY:MAKE_PEACE_AGREEMENTS]
[RESPONSIBILITY:MAKE_TOPIC_AGREEMENTS]
[APPOINTED_BY:DRUID]
[PRECEDENCE:70]
[DO_NOT_CULL]
[COLOR:7:0:1]
[MENIAL_WORK_EXEMPTION]
[SLEEP_PRETENSION]
[PUNISHMENT_EXEMPTION]
[ACCOUNT_EXEMPT]
[DUTY_BOUND]
You could also use DFHack's fixdiplomats command, which does this same. It will fix the missing elven diplomat, who will negotiate with your baron about the tree cutting. If you cut more trees than elves agree, they'll declare the war.

[Skorp]

Elves get more angry if you ofter them wood that if you kill them, remember:
-[KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER][JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON]
-[KILL_PLANT][UNTHINKABLE]

[Loud Whispers]

Elves get more angry if you ofter them wood that if you kill them, remember:
-[KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER][JUSTIFIED_IF_EXTREME_REASON]
-[KILL_PLANT][UNTHINKABLE]

DF Elves are just the best.

"PLANTS ARE FRIENDS, NOT FOOD!"
"GIVE MEAT A CHANCE, GO CARNIVOROUS!"
"GO RED, SAVE GREEN!"

[0cu]

About 6 human caravan guards fell down my waterfall on their behalf and now they start to besiege me. Very interesting.

[MattStriker]

Yeah, all that counts for them is that members of their civ died on your territory. Doesn't matter if they died from sheer stupidity, it's your fault.

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah, all that counts for them is that members of their civ died on your territory. Doesn't matter if they died from sheer stupidity, it's your fault.

Well you did have a responsibility to protect them. Makes sense too with guest right in a fantasy setting set in the past, you were supposed to do all you could to look after your guests.

[squidgen]

I have killed the elves and looted their caravans at least 10 times now, and they never get angry. I don't mind though, because it gives me plenty of cloth bins to sell to the dwarves and humans later.

[CapnUrist]

Yeah, all that counts for them is that members of their civ died on your territory. Doesn't matter if they died from sheer stupidity, it's your fault.

Well you did have a responsibility to protect them. Makes sense too with guest right in a fantasy setting set in the past, you were supposed to do all you could to look after your guests.

"Damnit, they're staring at the river again. Send someone to pull the humans away from the waterfall before a fox scares them in, I'm not in the mood for international incidents today."

[Loud Whispers]

Yeah, all that counts for them is that members of their civ died on your territory. Doesn't matter if they died from sheer stupidity, it's your fault.

Well you did have a responsibility to protect them. Makes sense too with guest right in a fantasy setting set in the past, you were supposed to do all you could to look after your guests.

"Damnit, they're staring at the river again. Send someone to pull the humans away from the waterfall before a fox scares them in, I'm not in the mood for international incidents today."

"Your traders just drowned themselves in the Dwarven outpost of Tilatolim sire."
"How, how can they be that fucking stupid. Oh god, what are we going to tell the people; they're absolute morons and we're getting the stupid shits killed? This is going to be an absolute mes- Wait did you say Dwarves?"

*10 minutes later*

"And so you see my people, our traders disappeared in Dwarven lands and we have no idea what happened. Our condolences are out to you, and we would like to stresss DWARVEN here, as we had nothing to do with sending a trade caravan into a river whatsoever, and we're not to blame.
I repeat, they got lost in a DWARVEN outpost, and we are not to blame.
That is all peasants."

[CapnUrist]

"...as we had nothing to do with sending a trade caravan into a river whatsoever..."

Clearly they didn't send them to one of my forts. I build fort entrances into river beds, without stopping the river from flowing overhead.

(Also I hope that wasn't any sort of indignant rebuttal, as my response was clearly meant as tongue-in-cheek humor.)

[Loud Whispers]

Quotation marks, terrifying embark.