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Dwarf4Explosives

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3645 on: April 01, 2014, 02:51:13 pm »

Too bad. I just thought it would be funny to have dragons that an adventurer (or a fortress inhabitant) could eat rather than the reverse. Are there any ideas for stuff to make the wildlife more survivable, though?
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3646 on: April 01, 2014, 05:47:25 pm »

That sounds good, but why not just make a reaction "Process flesh to bacon" so we can still have other meats? Also... I don't know when ( or if ) I'll get back to working on my contributions, anyone want me to just send in the unfinished raws and work them instead?
I wasn't suggesting replacing the muscle with bacon. Just adding bacon. In order to have specific bacon, you need to put bacon in the material/tissue templates (once again, adding it, not replacing meat or muscle), just like how leather needs its own template in order to be named according to the creature that gives it. Like with skin->leather, you might not need an actual bacon tissue, or for there to be any on the living creature, but you do need the material in the creature's material list. It could be and EBO (extra butcher object).

Too bad. I just thought it would be funny to have dragons that an adventurer (or a fortress inhabitant) could eat rather than the reverse. Are there any ideas for stuff to make the wildlife more survivable, though?
Anything that has flesh (and some things that don't technically) you can eat. Same in vanilla DF. You just have to kill it first. It's not like all wildlife has poisonous or inedible meat (just the lizard folk really). If you meant edible as in easily killable, we already have several creatures that aren't too hard to kill. Could use a few more, though.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3647 on: April 02, 2014, 06:57:12 am »

Can i also try to contribute to this mod? I'm not that good at modding, so I'll just be Doing basic things like expanding the wildlife and adding plants.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 07:14:27 am by Lord_lemonpie »
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3648 on: April 02, 2014, 08:08:14 am »

That sounds good, but why not just make a reaction "Process flesh to bacon" so we can still have other meats? Also... I don't know when ( or if ) I'll get back to working on my contributions, anyone want me to just send in the unfinished raws and work them instead?
I wasn't suggesting replacing the muscle with bacon. Just adding bacon. In order to have specific bacon, you need to put bacon in the material/tissue templates (once again, adding it, not replacing meat or muscle), just like how leather needs its own template in order to be named according to the creature that gives it. Like with skin->leather, you might not need an actual bacon tissue, or for there to be any on the living creature, but you do need the material in the creature's material list. It could be and EBO (extra butcher object).

Oh, gotcha. I understand now.

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3649 on: April 02, 2014, 10:35:58 am »

Can i also try to contribute to this mod? I'm not that good at modding, so I'll just be Doing basic things like expanding the wildlife and adding plants.
Sure. Just make something from scratch (or with the templates provided by the mod, just don't use any raws from vanilla) and post it.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3650 on: April 02, 2014, 01:39:34 pm »

So i just finished my first try at DF from scratch modding: The Dune Crocodile. "A large, reptilian predator that resides in the hottest deserts. It is amphibious. It has sharp teeth and a powerful bite. Its long legs allow it to reach an enormous speed"

Arena testing

After some arena testing, these were the results:
There are 1.8 (unequipped and untrained) halflings needed to kill a Dune Crocodile
There are 2.5 (unequipped and untrained) clockworkers needed to kill a Dune Crocodile
There are 3.75 (unequipped and untrained) lizardfolk needed to kill a Dune Crocodile


Butchery:

Butchering a Dune Crocodile will give you:
1x bone stack of 39 bones
1x bone stack of 38 bones (i didn't even know you could get multiple bone stacks from creatures but whatever)
1x stack of 40 muscles
1x stack of 33 fat
1x teeth
1x organs
1x skull
1x cartilage
1x nervous tissue

should I post the raws here right now or post them another time?
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« Reply #3651 on: April 02, 2014, 01:57:22 pm »

Sounds cool.
Arena testing is giving me some rather odd results. I think I screwed up one of my values because random hits seem to be completely shattering armor randomly.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3652 on: April 02, 2014, 04:29:00 pm »

I think treelords and panserblekks should be a standard for creature testing. If something can reliably kill either, we should think seriously before making it too common.
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« Reply #3653 on: April 02, 2014, 05:31:12 pm »

If it kills panserblekks we should make them very very very common....
So many giant armored squid things... the horror...

Panserblekks have killed 9/10 of all my adventurers...
Maybe I just walk in the wrong places

Edit:Arent they herbivores though?
Why am I getting completely screwed up by them?
« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 05:39:43 pm by Urdothor »
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« Reply #3654 on: April 02, 2014, 05:44:10 pm »

Are you attacking them? As long as you don't stand next to them, they shouldn't be attacking you. They're like yaks in vanilla. People often get killed by them but that's because they're not looking where they're going on mountainsides and in DF moving=autoattack.

If they kill you because you picked a fight with them, though, it's not really a problem.  Don't pick on animals that are much larger than you unless you have a good plan.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2014, 05:45:45 pm by HugoLuman »
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« Reply #3655 on: April 02, 2014, 05:53:39 pm »

No, I havent attacked any of them...
I attacked one of the new crab things(rygic?) but thats it.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3656 on: April 02, 2014, 05:54:38 pm »

Are you standing next to them or going near them?
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« Reply #3657 on: April 02, 2014, 06:02:44 pm »

I didnt think I did... I was surrounded by trees so I couldnt see much...
I did come close only once that I know of
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« Reply #3658 on: April 02, 2014, 06:06:00 pm »

They don't have [LARGE_PREDATOR] or [PRONE_TO_RAGE], so there's no reason they should attack you on sight.
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« Reply #3659 on: April 02, 2014, 08:17:54 pm »

If they were pissed off by something else would they attack?

I'll check the raws I have.
Maybe I screwed something up
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