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[mastahcheese]

Oh god yes.

[StLeibowitz]

Give them a ridiculously high birth rate and attacking them would be like fighting a hive of sentient army ants. This is awesome.

[mastahcheese]

Hmm, if they die from blood loss instantly, then how would they vampire?

[Dwarf4Explosives]

How do vermin sizes work again? If we make them really, really small, like 125 cm³, make them out of cobalt, and give them a reaction to harvest their own corpses, hmmm... Okay, let's say the Queen of the hive (I'm assuming Formic/real life setup) can produce ten offspring per month. If we give them a max population of two hundred, they'd be near invincible, yet still far too few per hive for realism.

To avoid Formic similarities, please don't make these guys playable. It'd be too easy, anyway, although the fact that they'd need to be slow would help balance things.

[WillowLuman]

Vermin has nothing to do with size. To make something a vermin, it needs the [VERMIN] tag. The ants bleeding instantly is because of their small size not their vermin status. However, any [VERMIN] can be instakilled by any [VERMIN_HUNTER] standing on or next to them, with no combat calculations whatsoever. Cats in DF (and tarantulas in this), in strictly game terms, kill their prey with some kind of death glare.

[Dwarf4Explosives]

I know that. I just wondered if there was any difference in the way size was assigned. I think I just misread something somewhere.

At any rate, if that's how [VERMIN_HUNTER] works, the ludicrously high breeding rate will be necessary, or else entire forts will be slaughtered by a single tarantula. Does [VERMIN_HUNTER] still work if the vermin is intelligent and civilized?

[BlackFlyme]

I know that. I just wondered if there was any difference in the way size was assigned. I think I just misread something somewhere.

At any rate, if that's how [VERMIN_HUNTER] works, the ludicrously high breeding rate will be necessary, or else entire forts will be slaughtered by a single tarantula. Does [VERMIN_HUNTER] still work if the vermin is intelligent and civilized?

As I mentioned earlier, my little guys were ignored by the cats that were brought along. I'm hoping that the same can be said for wild vermin hunters that wander onto the map.

Intelligence won't matter to a vermin hunter, and vermin hunters will even go after pet vermin. But civ-vermin seem to be treated as full creatures, so they would be ignored. One of the cats seemed to be following some of the ants around the map, but I'd chalk that up to them just wandering around like they normally do without a pasture or a meeting zone to go to.

[mastahcheese]

Just don't give any playable race the vermin hunter tag, because they will constantly drop what they are doing to go murder a mouse.

[tahujdt]

Seems appropriate for a race of cat people.

[CaptainMcClellan]

Oh wow.... Cat people? Sounds fun.

[Urdothor]

DFFS.... Intelligent races more diverse than the ecosystem.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

So, I just made a world using the most recent posting, and I have a statue, a cart and a palanquin that have been wandering the depths of the world since before time.
but, more importantly, I finished the ants.

Ants:

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creature_gem_Lady

[OBJECT:CREATURE]
[CREATURE:ANT_TOPAZ]
   [DESCRIPTION:An ant made of pure topaz, they capture the souls of the dead and create statues from them.]
   [NAME:topaz ant:topaz ants:topaz ant]
   [CASTE_NAME:topaz ant:topaz ants:topaz ant]
   [CREATURE_TILE:176][COLOR:6:1:0]
   [NOPAIN][EXTRAVISION][NOBREATHE][NOSTUN][NONAUSEA][NOEMOTION]
   [NOTHOUGHT][NOEXERT]
   [NO_DRINK][NO_EAT][NO_SLEEP]
   [NOT_LIVING]
   [NOT_BUTCHERABLE]
   [NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
   [PREFSTRING:golden colour]
   [PREFSTRING:statues]
   [VERMIN_SOIL_COLONY][FREQUENCY:100]
   [VERMIN_NOTRAP]
   [ARTIFICIAL_HIVEABLE]
   [HIVE_PRODUCT:1:33600:STATUE:NONE:INORGANIC:CRYSTAL_SOULS]
   [POPULATION_NUMBER:250:500]
   [CLUSTER_NUMBER:100:200]
   [SMALL_REMAINS]
   [PETVALUE:1]
   [PETVALUE_DIVISOR:1000]
   [SPEED:2900]
   [BODY_SIZE:0:0:1]
   [BIOME:ANY_LAND]
   [BODY:BEETLE_BASE_STL]
   [TISSUE:GEM]
      [TISSUE_NAME:topaz:NP]
      [TISSUE_MATERIAL:INORGANIC:TOPAZ_LADY]
      [SCARS]
      [MUSCULAR]
      [RELATIVE_THICKNESS:1]
      [CONNECTS]
      [TISSUE_SHAPE:LAYER]
      [HEALING_RATE:1000]
   [TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:GEM]
   [CASTE:MALE]
   [MALE]
   [POP_RATIO:95]
   [CASTE:FEMALE]
   [POP_RATIO:5]
   [FEMALE]

Topaz:

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inorganic_Lady

[OBJECT:INORGANIC]

[INORGANIC:TOPAZ_LADY]
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:GEM_TEMPLATE_STL]
   [STATE_NAME_ADJ:ALL_SOLID:topaz]
   [TILE:15][DISPLAY_COLOR:6:0:1]
   [ENVIRONMENT:IGNEOUS_ALL:CLUSTER_SMALL:30]
   [IS_GEM:topaz:STP:OVERWRITE_SOLID]
   [SOLID_DENSITY:2600]
   [MELTING_POINT:12970]
   [MATERIAL_VALUE:20]
   [STATE_COLOR:ALL_SOLID:GOLDEN_YELLOW]

Edit - The bombus still have their whole abdomen shaved off, and I found Plankton muscle and burdle mutilated corpses in the fishery when I tested. Did you know formics cannot make nest boxes?

[Dwarf4Explosives]

The first one is something that we've been planning to fix for a long time, the next two are weird, hilarious and unintended and the fourth is, to my knowledge, completely intentional.

[WillowLuman]

Those ants are missing the taxonomic creature classes. You might want to copy from the reaver ants. Or since theyre topaz, you could just give them INORGANIC and possibly SPIRIT_CORPOREAL.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

They seem to still work, if they are vermin that shouldn't matter right?

but it should be easy to give them [CREATURE_CLASS:INORGANIC]