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Author Topic: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.  (Read 525041 times)

Dwarf4Explosives

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3105 on: January 17, 2014, 12:13:51 pm »

Don't worry, they won't be [COMMON_DOMESTIC]. And to stop newbie players from making the mistake of capturing a pair, they'll have [TRAP_AVOID]. I'm wondering if I should give them high value to make it harder to buy them at embark, as well.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3106 on: January 17, 2014, 12:18:30 pm »

If they're TRAPAVOID, you can't tame them.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3107 on: January 17, 2014, 02:50:42 pm »

But if you use webs to cover the traps, they'll be captured even with [TRAP_AVOID], right?
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3108 on: January 17, 2014, 02:57:59 pm »

Just a thought: would it be a good trap to set up an "explosion" of webs when triggered?  You could use a web-generating creature (or one of its butcherable parts) as one of the requirements for making such a device.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3109 on: January 17, 2014, 03:03:12 pm »

Traps cannot use interactions. You'd have to make a "turret": a box with raise-able bridge walls containing a chained webber. Lower when you want it to web nearby things (including friendlies), raise when you want it contained. But you can't mod in a "device" that sprays webs when activated. Not without DFhack, anyway, and we've agreed not to make this mod dependent, since not everyone can use dfhack.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3110 on: January 17, 2014, 03:24:59 pm »

How about an immobile, indestructible creature that sprays webs when in water? That way you can create simple, automated web-spraying turrets, simply by pasturing the creature.
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3111 on: January 17, 2014, 04:18:26 pm »

You'd need to breed them, still. And the enemies would have to be in the water with it to get webbed.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3112 on: January 17, 2014, 04:27:41 pm »

What if you only add 1/7 water to the square? Would you still be able to get it to use the interaction?
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3113 on: January 17, 2014, 04:29:49 pm »

Anyone know what the fourteen instances of nothing are?
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3114 on: January 17, 2014, 04:33:01 pm »

Weird, but that's probably just your new creatures. In my version, I've only seen one "Nothing" so far, and that was fixed immediately.
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3115 on: January 17, 2014, 04:33:49 pm »

Anyone know what the fourteen instances of nothing are?

No idea. Could you provide more context as to where you saw these?

It could be a creature/material named nothing or a creature missing its caste name.
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« Reply #3116 on: January 17, 2014, 04:36:14 pm »

I havent added anything yet, just downloaded the current version for some bug testing (kopouts turn)

If it helps, the only description is that they have black eyes. According to the combat logs they have back spikes.
I searched the files for spikes and to the best of my memory, I found dragons.

They only appeared in arena mode.
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Re: DF from scratch: The entirely player-made universe succession.
« Reply #3117 on: January 17, 2014, 04:38:45 pm »

Perhaps they're some creature that was never fully implemented? Also, use "a" to assume form and then check for body parts using "z".
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And yet another bit of proof that RNG is toying with us. We do 1984, it does animal farm
...why do your hydras have two more heads than mine? 
Does that mean male hydras... oh god dammit.

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« Reply #3118 on: January 17, 2014, 04:40:18 pm »

Forgot about doing that.

I'll check all the instances of nothing in case they're each seperate creatures
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« Reply #3119 on: January 17, 2014, 04:43:29 pm »

Any idea why in some of my worlds formics and halfling civilizations were never genned?
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