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[Frumple]

Also worth noting re: arrows is that crossbows are plenty good at tearing through armor. Dunno if the hoberg are still around, but them or indie crossbow folks can do in a pinch if you're looking for ranged armor killers (that aren't mages, anyway), if your nation doesn't have crossbow access.

[nenjin]

Haven't seen Holberg yet, but yeah. Holberg Crossbowmen are cheap (relatively speaking anyway) and it's pretty glorious to watch 200 of them unleash crossbows at the same time. I've watched it decimate heavy cav before.

[Tnx]

Started a new game as Vanheim.  Man these troops are expensive.  Also found a site for recruiting sages and a province that lets me recruit troll kings, trolls, armored trolls, and moose knight trolls.

[Neonivek]

Are the elves still good?

[SharpKris]

Started a new game as Vanheim.  Man these troops are expensive.  Also found a site for recruiting sages and a province that lets me recruit troll kings, trolls, armored trolls, and moose knight trolls.

i'm not certain what i should imagine when i hear "moose knight trolls"

[Frumple]

Armored trolls riding moose. They're actually pretty deadly, ha.

Van... I can't recall much about them. I think the only one(s?) I've played much are the ones with the skinshifters (LA, at least. Think that's van, anyway...), and their initial strategy of "bury everything in skinshifters" is pretty simple

[Tnx]

Yeah these trolls are insane.  Too bad there's a recruit limit on them (3 per turn).  I'm playing as EA Vanheim, I used to hate fighting against them but now playing as them, the AI seem to dispel my illusions so easily.  Grass is always greener on the other side I guess.

[nenjin]

Trolls are nuts. I was having ~200 Merman getting rolled by ~50 Triton and Triton Guard. Add in 15 Sea Trolls? Crush them with minimal losses.

[Tnx]

Is there a spell to find all astral sites in a province?  I can't seem to find it.

[Frumple]

Arcane Probing at Evocation 3. Three pearls, only takes one level of astral to cast.

[Tnx]

Awesome, thanks Frumple!

[E. Albright]

Also worth noting re: arrows is that crossbows are plenty good at tearing through armor. Dunno if the hoberg are still around, but them or indie crossbow folks can do in a pinch if you're looking for ranged armor killers (that aren't mages, anyway), if your nation doesn't have crossbow access.

Another thing to note is that slings are very nasty against anyone without helmets, even if their body is well-armored.

As a side note, the devs have made mention of possibly eventually revising slings to be more historically accurate rather than cleaving to conventional Gygaxian myths about their efficacy.

[nenjin]

Slings make for good, cheap, short ranged massed fire. I imagine they're not nearly as good in MA or LA, but in EA they can be pretty effective in bricks of 50.

[SharpKris]

Trolls are nuts. I was having ~200 Merman getting rolled by ~50 Triton and Triton Guard. Add in 15 Sea Trolls? Crush them with minimal losses.

if the Trolls had the trample trait that would explain it. Troglodytes oh how have i misjudged you
oddly enough giants dont have the trample trait

[Frumple]

Trolls don't have trample, no, sea or otherwise*. They're just really rather good at killing most human-level opponents. Fairly tough (some protection), fairly sizable HP, regen and high strength. A solid group of them can wreck face on normal troops pretty easily. They're nice critters, just fairly expensive to get via normal means (i.e. summon). A recruitment site for 'em is... nice.

*Actually, the only native-underwater critter I can remember with trample is Asp Turtles (which are gloriously brutal monstrosities that can take most indie water provinces either solo or in groups of two or three and do horrible things to armies in general.) and... probably Leviathans, which are those but undead (and amphibious). Both really high up in terms of research, though. Conj or Ench 7.