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[VerdantSF]

After years of lackluster animal offerings from the elves, I finally got a grizzly.  At first, I was going to assign the war grizzly to a new recruit, but then I noticed that my veterans have the "don't care about anything anymore" trait.  Does that apply to all mood hits, including pet death?  If so, I might give the grizzly to the fortress champion.

[Larix]

Losing a pet is considered a tragedy, so it should be affected. But i prefer to use war animals as area defence - station them in pastures near critical locations. I'd also try my best to preserve that grizzly in hopes of a breeding pair. Why work with _a_ war grizzly when you can have _fifty_?

Personally attached work animals are buggy, because the game _treats_ them as pets where bad feelings are concerned, but checks the wrong flag when looking for worthy dead animals to bury and never assigns them to a coffin. Even if you circumvent the bug by setting your grizzly's adoption status to 'allowed' before training it and/or atomsmash its corpse, that's a degree of extra effort that's simply unnecessary with an unassigned war animal.

[smakemupagus]

combat hardening diminishes certain types of mood hits including pet deaths,
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:List_of_Dwarven_Thoughts
see "tragedies".

There are also a number of other relevant personality traits; anxiety, depression, stress, etc.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Personality_trait

[VerdantSF]

Thanks for the info!

I'd also try my best to preserve that grizzly in hopes of a breeding pair. Why work with _a_ war grizzly when you can have _fifty_?

/headsmack!

Thank you for reminding me of that!  I'll hold off until I can get a steady stream of cubs .

[Rogue Yun]

I'm not sure how helpful this is but anyone can be a trainer and the dogs/war animals can be trained by anyone.  And the war creature will follow anyone who trains them.  Once you start breeding cubs set the next person you want to have a war bear follow them around to train them and they will. *edit* and I don't think there is any unhappy thoughts at the death of their *trained follower*.

[Id Utalrisen]

Losing a pet is considered a tragedy, so it should be affected. But i prefer to use war animals as area defence - station them in pastures near critical locations. I'd also try my best to preserve that grizzly in hopes of a breeding pair. Why work with _a_ war grizzly when you can have _fifty_?

How long does it take for a grizzly to reach maturity? I imagine it's a while, beyond the reasonable life of a fortress. Can anyone confirm?

[weenog]

and I don't think there is any unhappy thoughts at the death of their *trained follower*.

It can happen with wild animals that require periodic retraining.  A trainer can form a bond with a training partner and then be very upset when the training partner is, for example, converted to badger steaks because you have enough safer, fully domesticated ones to breed now.

[Rogue Yun]

Thank you, that is good to know.

[Larix]

Losing a pet is considered a tragedy, so it should be affected. But i prefer to use war animals as area defence - station them in pastures near critical locations. I'd also try my best to preserve that grizzly in hopes of a breeding pair. Why work with _a_ war grizzly when you can have _fifty_?

How long does it take for a grizzly to reach maturity? I imagine it's a while, beyond the reasonable life of a fortress. Can anyone confirm?

I can falsify
Grizzly (and other) bears grow up very quickly, faster than all large felines. According to the raws, they become adult (war-trainable) after a single year. Bobcats take three years...

[slothen]

How long does it take for a grizzly to reach maturity? I imagine it's a while, beyond the reasonable life of a fortress. Can anyone confirm?

from the raws on magmawiki

[CHILD:1]  Cubs become adults at their 1-year birthday
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:20000]  Cubs are 1/3 the size of a dwarf when born
 [BODY_SIZE:1:0:100000] After 1 year the the cub becomes a bear, and is 40% larger than the average dwarf
[BODY_SIZE:2:0:200000] The bear is fully grown after 2 years.