Lenglon:
No I've not forgotten about you,
Pup: ok, you want a situation, how about the same RVS question I asked captain ford:
Captain: final hypothedical. you are mafia. it is night 1. on day 1 a bandwagon was forming on a townie. they claimed cop. do you NK the claimed cop or someone else? if someone else, the following day the cop claims to have investigated a random townie and found them clean. do you fakeclaim jailer?
since you claim to have put thought into the jailer role, why is fakeclaiming jailer a valid option in this situation?
Same question right back at you. Why would fakeclaiming a jailer be a valid option? It seems like a stupid option to me; as that will lead to a counter claim or being locked away by the real jailer.
the trick here is that the cop has already claimed a result from the night. odds on something as suspicious as a day1 cop claim would be confirmed by the jailer... by jailing him and seeing what he reports. since being jailed doesn't give you a notification, but having your cop investigate does, odds on if there is a jailer in the setup (only a 50-50 chance) he would use it on the cop, and if the cop reports a investigate result, you lynch him. so what you do is fakeclaim jailer, say you jailed the claimed cop, and that the cop is lying scum. easy lynch. when he flips town, you simply call him an idiot, and say that he probably panicked when he didn't get a result. make sure your most expendable mafiasco makes the claim because it's a really high-risk play. if there really was a jailer, and he counter-claims, then you have just successfully learned the identities of all the town power-roles, and you still have a chance to cause a mislynch by calling the cop and jailer combo the scumteam. after this your remaining mafiasco just needs a strong daygame and you'll be in the clear since you know who the power roles are and the jailer can't protect themselves.
You seem to be avoiding noticing that you're being buddied (something appears VERY scum to me). What is your read on Shinigami? Are you two REALLY that bad of a scum team that we know both of you before the day even technically starts?
My read on shinigami is possible scum. He's buddying me pretty thouroughly, but it doesn't feel like scum buddying. It feels like he's looking out for me because of the shared situation we were in last game, and the fact that we ended up buddying each other in that game too, with good cause, but it's of course possible that he's scum trying to win allies for later on, or give himself an alibi assuming I get lynched. The reason I'm giving him benefit of doubt is I have trouble envisioning a scum IC that would let him keep it up for this long without telling him that what he's doing is going to get himself lynched.
Pup: You ignored my question, why?
Captain: Where are you? I dont want another Deathsword situation where we have a lurking IC scum win the match.
Dem:
how on earth is over-answering a question evading it?
Giving too much information increases the static to noise ratio, and can be considered an attempt to confuse the reader into misinterpreting what you are trying to say; hiding in plain sight, as it were.
that wasn't shinigami who said that. that was me. dont do this again, ever. it's
really scummy to lie in quotes. why did you feel the need to steal words from someone else to pressure shinigami? it's not like he wasn't under pressure already.
and if my answer to something confuses you, just ask me to clarify it.
Demdemeh- I don't understand what you are saying when you say that
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On the other hand, your point is very good on other being able to hide while this argument is going on
. After joining this discussion haven't I painted a target on myself? Yeah, just wondering.
I wasn't specifically referring to you with this statement. Others have been far quieter, and have spoken little except with regards to you and Lenglon. You have at least been responding, and have been front and center with the discussion, so hiding isn't a scumtell that could be attributed to you.
If you find this suspicious, why arn't you pressuring those people? You're saying that unspecified people are acting scummy but not acting on it. that kind of psudo-activity is scummy in of itself. please, back up your statement here. who were you talking about in that quote?