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[Snafu]

I don't know if i'm the only one but dwarf therapist doesnt seem to work with the new version. im getting an unidentified game version error.

This would be to do with its (can't rememer the name of the ini file - something to do with memory bindings IIRC). Same thing happened with the previous versions.Ask in the DT thread for the relevant file (or check on Github)

[Amostubal]

I don't know if i'm the only one but dwarf therapist doesnt seem to work with the new version. im getting an unidentified game version error.

EDIT: Nevermind. should have checked dwarf therapist thread first.

To get Dwarf Therapist to work, you need to download a slightly older version Dwarf Fortress - v0.43.03.

Then you need to manually update an ini file. Instructions here - https://github.com/splintermind/Dwarf-Therapist/tree/DF2016/share/memory_layouts

Had the same issue, just copied and pasted the therapist folder from r4, the previous release.  Worked like a boss after that. 

Personal note... I do not like the edits to spacefox.... the raws are jacked up something awful... I copied and pasted r4 of those over too.   They made more sense.  The r5 version has floor grates for gypsum and a few other rock layer walls... and bauxite looks like a constructed floor.  And that's just the start of it.... r4 raws were better.  Otherwise this has been the best build yet.  I've had 0 crashes and very little for lag at 100+citizens 50+ critters, an invasion of 50+ undead with a dozen or so necros...

[PeridexisErrant]

Gah, it looks like my script didn't copy the Therapist memory layout into place.  Also I didn't configure the new PyLNP importer... hotfix coming soon.

Edit: released.

[jecowa]

Personal note... I do not like the edits to spacefox.... the raws are jacked up something awful... I copied and pasted r4 of those over too.   They made more sense.  The r5 version has floor grates for gypsum and a few other rock layer walls... and bauxite looks like a constructed floor.  And that's just the start of it.... r4 raws were better.  Otherwise this has been the best build yet.  I've had 0 crashes and very little for lag at 100+citizens 50+ critters, an invasion of 50+ undead with a dozen or so necros...

I had been curious when Nopal changed those things in Spacefox too. Do you think the changes to the rocks and ores and stuff look like the might be unintentional? Maybe he used the wrong Git command or something.

I copied and pasted r4 of those over too.

You need to copy back the /raw/objects/item_tool.txt file from -r05 to make it compatible with Dwarf Fortress v0.43.03.

[jecowa]

PyLNP.json excerpt

Code: [Select]

  "to_import": [
    [
      "text_prepend",
      "<df>/gamelog.txt"
    ],
    [
      "text_prepend",
      "<df>/ss_fix.log"
    ],
    [
      "text_prepend",
      "<df>/dfhack.history"
    ],
    [
      "copy_add",
      "<df>/data/save"
    ],
    [
      "copy_add",
      "<df>/soundsense",
      "LNP/Utilities/Soundsense/packs"
    ],
    [
      "copy_add",
      "User Generated Content"
    ],
    [
      "copy_add",
      "LNP/Utilities/Soundsense/packs"
    ]
  ],
That looks like good stuff there.

I'm curious about this one:

      "copy_add",
      "<df>/soundsense",
      "LNP/Utilities/Soundsense/packs"

This is the only one with three lines. The first location is origin location and the second location is the destination location?

[Amostubal]

Personal note... I do not like the edits to spacefox.... the raws are jacked up something awful... I copied and pasted r4 of those over too.   They made more sense.  The r5 version has floor grates for gypsum and a few other rock layer walls... and bauxite looks like a constructed floor.  And that's just the start of it.... r4 raws were better.  Otherwise this has been the best build yet.  I've had 0 crashes and very little for lag at 100+citizens 50+ critters, an invasion of 50+ undead with a dozen or so necros...

I had been curious when Nopal changed those things in Spacefox too. Do you think the changes to the rocks and ores and stuff look like the might be unintentional? Maybe he used the wrong Git command or something.

I copied and pasted r4 of those over too.

You need to copy back the /raw/objects/item_tool.txt file from -r05 to make it compatible with Dwarf Fortress v0.43.03.

 interesting. I think I just copied what I had in the old folder on top of the new folders and it seems to be just fine... oh well... I've been busy shoving rocks in a hole.... apparently I didn't see the flashing 1x1 square when doing dig assignments.... I think it was an aquifer from above... just flooded out the nursery, puppy pins, my nest rooms... library, temples..... they are swimming for their lives. 4 floors about 600 tiles all In 2 to 4/7 water...  I got 3 engravers throwing tantrums....  been busy today....

[PeridexisErrant]

PyLNP.json excerpt

That looks like good stuff there.  I'm curious about this one:

      "copy_add",
      "<df>/soundsense",
      "LNP/Utilities/Soundsense/packs"

This is the only one with three lines. The first location is origin location and the second location is the destination location?

Yep.  Each entry has (strategy, source [, destination]) - if a destination is not given, it's as source but in the new pack.  For most items, destination is the same so I added this as a shortcut to avoid copy-paste errors.  PyLNP docs should explain

[Amostubal]

I had been curious when Nopal changed those things in Spacefox too. Do you think the changes to the rocks and ores and stuff look like the might be unintentional? Maybe he used the wrong Git command or something.

thats the weird thing I went through trying to see what in the world was up and I found it this morning.  It seems that he made intentional changes to inorganic_stone_***.txt files.  several tile nums were changed in many cases it just seems intentional as whole "sets" of certain layers were changed to certain tiles.

 anyways  copy and paste old set over new set on those 4 and it looks great.... I don't know what he was thinking... if I had the time and know how, I'd maintain my own.

[MJMCP]

Hey, I got an alert that the announcement window exe was a Trojan from Windows Defender, which removed it. Now one of my hard drives is being scanned and repaired. Steam was on that drive, and before rebooting it didn't exist anymore and I could not access the drive it was on. I don't know if this is just a dumb thing that happened to me or worth looking into, but it's unfortunate, and I'm hoping I don't need to go buy a new hard drive.

[flyteofheart]

uh this might not be the place to ask but how do I use this pack with mods? I have the tower defense II mod + some small stuff I tweaked installed in the previous version manually. but i dont want to mess up my modded saves updating to the new starter pack. is there a way to make it all transfer correctly? and maybe stop me from having to manually re-add the mods after I change a texture pack?

I also see that you mention taffer in a changelog but taffer's graphics set is not in the graphics select screen? its really my favorite but i just thought it wasnt included.

[jecowa]

uh this might not be the place to ask but how do I use this pack with mods? I have the tower defense II mod + some small stuff I tweaked installed in the previous version manually. but i dont want to mess up my modded saves updating to the new starter pack. is there a way to make it all transfer correctly? and maybe stop me from having to manually re-add the mods after I change a texture pack?

If your mod doesn't conflict with the texture pack, you can install the mod into the mods folder. I'm not completely sure what happens if your graphics pack and mod conflict, but I think with any conflicting files, only the one installed first is used.

Here are some excerpts from the Lazy Newb Pack manual:

Mods:
This folder contains mods for Dwarf Fortress, in the form of changes to the defining raws (which define the content DF uses). Mods use the same reduced format for raws as graphics packs. Mods can be configured with a content manifest.

Graphics work very similar to mods.

Graphics:
This folder contains graphics packs, consisting of data and raw folders. Any raws identical to vanilla files will be discarded; when installing a graphics pack the remaining files will be copied over a set of vanilla raws and the combination installed. Through more complex merge logic, graphics can also be used with mods and changed on most modded saves. Graphics can be configured with a content manifest.

The bottom of the manual has a several more paragraphs about mods that should explain it pretty well. PeridexisErrant wrote coded the mod support himself, so he can probably help if you need it.

I also see that you mention taffer in a changelog but taffer's graphics set is not in the graphics select screen? its really my favorite but i just thought it wasnt included.

He's got Taffer in the tileset folder. Install Curses then click the "customize" tab and switch the tilesheet to "Taffer" and change your color scheme to Taffer's Pastel color scheme or whatever color scheme you like.

[Nopal]

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[jecowa]

I'm trying to analyze the Spacefox update, but the changes were extensive. It looks like it's mostly good changed to me, though. Maybe you just messed up in one file by using the grate for some rocks or whatever the problem was. I don't know enough about all the rock stuff to interpret it, but the changes to the creatures and tools look like they are all definitely improvements.

Here's kind of an overview of the changes to the raws:

Spoiler: Changes to Existing Objects (click to show/hide)

Existing Files:

inorganic_stone_gem.txt

• stones were changed from using the tiered stone icons to using the ☼ icon.

inorganic_stone_layer.txt

• the stone floors / walls or whatever were changed to use other floor tiles, the grate icon, or the icon to the left of demon that looks like a loaf of bread or something.

inorganic_stone_mineral.txt

• A lot of the stone that were previously using the stone icons to the left of the dead elf icon are now using the pixie-dust-looking icon located directly below the dead elf icon. There were lots of other changes to this file too.

inorganic_stone_soil.txt

• changes some floor-looking tiles to other floor-looking tiles

plant_standard.txt

• removes a bunch of tags that I believe are only used for Text Will Be Text

Spoiler: New Modified Objects (click to show/hide)

New Files:

creature_amphibians.txt

• Toad was changed from using a rock icon to using the frog icon

creature_insects.txt

• Roach was changed from using rock icon to using spider icon
• Fireflies and Bees were changed from rock to using the bee icon

creature_large_ocean.txt

• lamprey fish was changed from using the water icon to using  the fish icon
• skate fish was changed from using the off lever to using the fish icon
• lots of fish types were changed from using the chair icon to using the fish icon

   
creature_large_riverlake.txt

• lots of fish types were changed from using the chair icon to using the fish icon

creature_next_underground.txt

• an amphibian's icon was changed from a rock icon to the frog icon
• a creepy crawler's icon was changed from the asterisk to the spider icon

creature_other.txt

• several creatures were changed from rocks to more appropriate icons

creature_reptile.txt

• lizard icon was changed from rock to frog

creature_riverlake_pool.txt

• several turtles were changed from "T" to the goblin icon
• several mammals were changed from the letter "o" to the kobold icon

   
creature_small_mammals.txt

• several squirrels and chipmunks were changed from a rock icon to the cat icon

creature_small_ocean.txt

• mussels and oysters were changed from "m" and "o" to an icon that looks like it could be three clams or something
• many fish were changed to use the fish icon

creature_small_riverlake.txt

• many fish were changed to use the fish icon

creature_standard.txt

• Humans were changed from the "U" to the little adventurer character
• Elves were changed from "e" to the dead elf icon
• Gobins were changed from "g" to the goblin icon
• Kobolds were changed from "k" to the kobold icon
• Fairie were changed from the rock icon to the bee icon

   
creature_subterranean.txt

• several insects were changed from rocks to use the spider icon
• fish was changed from using the chair icon to using the fish icon
• bat was changed from a rock icon to the bee icon
• bird was changed from a rock icon to the bee icon
• several other creatures were changed to something more appropriate

inorganic_other.txt

• all the clay and glaze (or whatever the stuff in this file is) was changed from the grate to the bush icon

   
item_tool.txt

• cauldron was changed from some grass to the pot icon
• ladle was changed from the leaf icon to the sword icon
• bowl was changed from something that looks like a workout bench to something that looks like a bowl
• mortar was changed from the clam icon to the pail/bucket icon
• pestle was changed from the sword icon to the bowl icon
• jug was changed from the anvil icon to the the vase icon
• large pot was changed from the workout bench to the pot
• hive was changed from the logs to the chest of drawers
• honey comb was changed from a triangular rock to the ☼ icon
• tool pouch was changed from the vase to the bag
• minecart was changed from a big square rock to the minecart
• wheelbarrow was changed from a diamond-encrusted-doggie-dish-looking thing to the minecart

   
plant_crops.txt

• colors of a bunch of crops were changed

plant_garden.txt

• a bunch of tiles and colors were changed. (i noticed some grate icons being changed to leaf icons, for example)

plant_grasses.txt

• it looks like the tiles of some grasses were changed

plant_new_trees.txt

• looks like the colors of a bunch of fruits were changed

plant_standard.txt

• a bunch of color and tile changes

[Elminster]

Hi.

Tried to import from r04 but got the following in the stderr.txt:
***
Running PyLNP 0.12 (OS: win, Compiled: True)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\core.lnp", line 125, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\tkgui.tkgui", line 716, in on_query_migration
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\tkgui.tkgui", line 723, in migrate_settings
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\core.importer", line 122, in do_imports
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\genericpath", line 80, in commonprefix
ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence
***

[jecowa]

Hi.

Tried to import from r04 but got the following in the stderr.txt:

Spoiler: stderr.txt (click to show/hide)

***
Running PyLNP 0.12 (OS: win, Compiled: True)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 12, in <module>
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\core.lnp", line 125, in __init__
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\tkgui.tkgui", line 716, in on_query_migration
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\tkgui.tkgui", line 723, in migrate_settings
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\core.importer", line 122, in do_imports
  File "C:\Users\Michael Madsen\Documents\LazyNewbPack\python_lnp\build\lnp\out00-PYZ.pyz\genericpath", line 80, in commonprefix
ValueError: max() arg is an empty sequence
***

Thanks for the report. That's the same error we were getting on Mac and Linux builds. I had thought the Windows version was immune until now. Someone just sent a pull request that seems to fix it, though, so hopefully it will be corrected in the next version.