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Author Topic: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack  (Read 4170364 times)

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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3600 on: May 20, 2016, 06:46:43 pm »

Arshness, I'm wondering if TWBT could be disabled? This seems like something that TWBT would have been responsible for fixing. It's normal for the throne to be used on the north of a closed draw bridge and a desk to be used on the south of a closed drawbridge when you don't have any graphics pack installed. (Those tile choices make sense visually with the default Curses tileset.)
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« Reply #3601 on: May 21, 2016, 12:00:43 am »

It sounds like something was wrong with the art folder in the graphics pack and copying it over failed. It's hard to say what exactly; was it a specific pack that caused the issue, or any pack?

If you have a reproducible test, try running PyLNP from a command prompt with the argument "-d" and then make it fail to install that graphics pack. This will output a bit more debugging info into the log (it's worth a shot, at least).
Completely bone stock starter pack; doesn't matter which graphic set I use.

I recorded a demo video, maybe you could try yourself and see if the same thing happens?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdX2McVhTdg  (whoops quality issues)

note: I kept changing graphic sets to show proof it was changing just fine; that isn't required, you can just break it from the start by viewing one of DF's subfolders (not sure if every one applies, but just to be safe go in the raw folder).
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3602 on: May 21, 2016, 03:44:18 am »


This. It appeared just after I ran DF with the LNP. Then, it told me that something in the system volume information was infected, and deleted it. Then I ran a full scan with malwarebytes and it didn't find anything.
So I tried redownloading the LNP and it detected the virus again, just as I unzipped the file this time.

I would have thought that it was a false positive but... after it told me that the system volume information was infected, it got pretty spooky. I tried searching for a similar case but I couldn't find anything.

EDIT: searching stuff on google I found out that antiviruses aren't supposed to be able to delete stuff in the system volume information folder... dafuq?
« Last Edit: May 21, 2016, 03:54:33 am by ManMan »
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3603 on: May 21, 2016, 05:43:50 am »

I got a virus hit downloading the pack too, though I don't recall it messing with anything but Dwarf Mockup, the same program you got the hit for. First time I've ever had am issue on the pack, and since I've never used the program or ever heard of it, I just let it delete it. Though, in my case, that's all it deleted.

ManMan, are you sure it deleted said file and didn't just quarantine it? For files antiviruses can't delete, they're usually quarantined in a place you can view through the software.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3604 on: May 21, 2016, 05:55:34 am »

I'm not sure if it deleted it, but I can't find any quarantine folder or vault button anywhere. It's just strange that it also detected it in the system volume information folder, what antivirus do you have?

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« Reply #3605 on: May 21, 2016, 10:32:49 am »

I'm not very familiar with AVG, but it should have a setting to ask you before nuking a file.  You probably don't want to use that setting for normal use, but when introducing your machine to a new DF pack, this lets you explicitly trust individual files.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3606 on: May 21, 2016, 11:34:10 am »

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Dwarf Mockup

10/56 virus report: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/6e126556a8560f36d7883d42bb3607b24b733e321cb35f70fe3238956c2e59ea/analysis/1463848293/

By comparison, here's version 1.0.3: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/fd05e8d11572a1f932edaf3a30a3fcad33276307e49550de33502ed00173f42e/analysis/1463849097/

Completely clean.

Version 1.2 getting reports while 1.0.3 doesn't is pretty suspicious.

I wouldn't run it myself; don't have any need for it anyway.

Edit: 1.1.2 flares up, but less than 1.2: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/1f436f0cbf36d301ab792ed7c5d7cb230493886d521a3bfa2c8bc65155addf43/analysis/1463849594/

Edit2: Author claims it's OCRA embedding a ruby interpreter into the exe.  I attempted to compile the source, but am running into issues I can't decipher.

Considering it's open source, it's probably clean.  But maybe try compiling it yourself anyway.  Good luck if you can!  (ruby 2.3 doesn't work)


Announcement Window, which I use, is 7/57: https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/b5a1da567ba815614067b60d8272f4f5062f389045c29b5bfeeb734c980169cd/analysis/1463848541/

Less egregious reports, though.

The rest are all pretty clean (2 at most).

*shrug*

Too many viruses and malware to keep track of; too many false positives; it's all a confusing mess nowadays, especially to people who have little to no programming knowledge like myself.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2016, 12:40:14 pm by DAOWAce »
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« Reply #3607 on: May 22, 2016, 04:00:04 am »

It sounds like a weird permission error.  Make sure to run every program as an admin here.  The fact that it seemed to work when you swapped to a different drive and then swapped back seems indicative of some sort of localized problems with folders.

I've had a few crazy permission bugs with windows over the past few years (much more with windows 10), and sometimes it shows up as fine when you examine the folder, but then while you are running a program the permission will change (without you knowing).
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3608 on: May 22, 2016, 06:37:25 am »

almost all games that i know of can't run on win7 and onwards without full admin rights.
if only they'd still support winXP, i'd never upgrade to win7.
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« Reply #3609 on: May 22, 2016, 06:45:28 am »

almost all games that i know of can't run on win7 and onwards without full admin rights.
if only they'd still support winXP, i'd never upgrade to win7.
Get on my level, I still use XP

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« Reply #3610 on: May 22, 2016, 07:50:58 am »

when was the last update of lnp? it says 2013?! nah. when? still active development? wonder if we see 0.43.02 with lnp. long time no dwarf for me. would like to get in again with the newest version.
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« Reply #3611 on: May 22, 2016, 09:03:50 am »

« Last Edit: 26 April 2016, 00:49:29 by PeridexisErrant »
... How much do you want from a guy's free time? Seriously, He's been really on the ball, and this newest release needs some tools updated before it will be ready anyway, play 40.X or have a little patience. Or Paypal the guy a couple grand or something.
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Re: PeridexisErrant's DF Starter Pack
« Reply #3612 on: May 22, 2016, 09:30:13 am »

when was the last update of lnp? it says 2013?! nah. when? still active development? wonder if we see 0.43.02 with lnp. long time no dwarf for me. would like to get in again with the newest version.

Last updated 26 april 2016. Was a semi major update inbetween I guess. The version here is fine. Besides you dont want half updated addons constantly corrupting or crashing your game.
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« Reply #3613 on: May 22, 2016, 10:23:26 am »

I think all Dwarf Fortress hacking tools require scanning your memory. (I think it works kind of like Game Genie or something.) It sounds kind of reasonable that a virus scanner might confuse a memory scanner for a trojan. I'd run it (and everything) behind a good firewall just to be sure. Mine is set up so that apps have to ask for my permission to connect to the internet.
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« Reply #3614 on: May 22, 2016, 10:27:58 am »

« Last Edit: 26 April 2016, 00:49:29 by PeridexisErrant »
... How much do you want from a guy's free time? Seriously, He's been really on the ball, and this newest release needs some tools updated before it will be ready anyway, play 40.X or have a little patience. Or Paypal the guy a couple grand or something.

Yeah, Peridexter seems like he's involved in everything. He's a mod on the subreddit, he maintains the Windows releases of the Lazy Newm Pack, he helps develop the software that all the Lazy Newb Packs use (PyLNP), he runs the Dwarf Fortress graphics repository on GitHub, and there's probably more stuff that I'm not aware of.
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