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Author Topic: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)  (Read 137200 times)

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #120 on: December 23, 2013, 11:58:32 am »

bumping this thread for news, the last patches added a 19 new galaxies, looks like Haxus's plans to make a galaxy for every type of player, i mean, one galaxy will be a no PvP zone which is locked to TL7 production. the other will be the normal, classic galaxy.

i dont know about the others, in other news, it seems that to get to these new galaxies you'll have to cross the massive blackholes in the center of each galaxy.

spaceship models and editor revamps seem to be the next plan before (or after?) the restart.

TBH i dont know what to think about the game, the last updates have me in a 50/50 position, i dont see the need of having more than 1 galaxy, he could just have made an NPC empire for noobs and gave the option to leave from it and found other empires once you had had enough knowledge of the game, the empire would have its restrictions in order to evade exploits. but anyways, he does what he likes for its game. pity.....
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #121 on: December 23, 2013, 12:44:45 pm »

bumping this thread for news, the last patches added a 19 new galaxies, looks like Haxus's plans to make a galaxy for every type of player, i mean, one galaxy will be a no PvP zone which is locked to TL7 production. the other will be the normal, classic galaxy.

i dont know about the others, in other news, it seems that to get to these new galaxies you'll have to cross the massive blackholes in the center of each galaxy.

spaceship models and editor revamps seem to be the next plan before (or after?) the restart.

TBH i dont know what to think about the game, the last updates have me in a 50/50 position, i dont see the need of having more than 1 galaxy, he could just have made an NPC empire for noobs and gave the option to leave from it and found other empires once you had had enough knowledge of the game, the empire would have its restrictions in order to evade exploits. but anyways, he does what he likes for its game. pity.....

SoH's playerbase is way too small to be splitting it across multiple galaxies. The last 2 or 3 times I made a character, the most people I ever saw online were 30.  :-\
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #122 on: December 23, 2013, 02:39:16 pm »

Haxus was contemplating reducing the galaxy size as well to 20% (and by 20% i mean diameter: 500pc to 100pc).  Said if it didn't look good he wouldn't do it though. (calculate it as ~20 stars per sector and current x/y = 512, z = 256 to see how drastically it would reduce density).

One of the other counter-intuitive things is, galaxy size only really effects star density (and I guess the easy travel-to-coordinate orders) as you can still keep going out and generating single star sectors past that.  I did talk to him about it, may need to some more.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #123 on: December 23, 2013, 02:43:53 pm »

the game's universe its still too massive for separating it from just a single galaxy, it was unnecessary.......
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #124 on: December 23, 2013, 06:16:33 pm »

Just to be clear, what is and isn't in the game, practically speaking?  I get the impression the bulk of the game is RTS with a bit of firefly style spaceships and feck all in planetbound exercises. I also get the impression that the game is pretty playercentric.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #125 on: December 23, 2013, 08:04:43 pm »

Just to be clear, what is and isn't in the game, practically speaking?  I get the impression the bulk of the game is RTS with a bit of firefly style spaceships and feck all in planetbound exercises. I also get the impression that the game is pretty playercentric.
Gameplay is separated into three stages and areas.
The first is the personal stage, where you run around the planet on foot.  This lasts for all of 20 seconds until you kill the guide and turn his skin into your city flag (a fitting setting!).
Second is city management, which is generally done zoomed out to get an RTS view, placing buildings, ordering what they do, and balancing your population, which takes a majority of your time.
Third is space flight, which is generally to get between planets.  Warships are easily possible though, which is how you roam around looking for NPC pirates or other players to rough up.

While the galaxy splitting may sound extreme, I think it'll end up being more themed.  If you want to experience some low-level rumbles, you can pop over to your TL7 outpost and test your low-scale design and how they'll fare against other low-scale, easy-entry combat ships.  The vast bulk of playing will be done on the lowest number, default 'open rules' galaxy.

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #126 on: December 23, 2013, 08:13:48 pm »

I can definitely see empires claiming galaxies and blockading the entrance. Just watch Syndicate in the next universe claim a galaxy for themselves.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #127 on: December 23, 2013, 08:39:54 pm »

Well now, if they do that, I suspect an alliance could be formed for the sake of making a breakthrough.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #128 on: December 23, 2013, 08:51:30 pm »

Ooh, that's a pretty interesting positive of the galaxies. We now have actual contested spots. Whereas with the old single galaxy, you had tons of different routes to places; deadheading, warp, or one of the probable many wormholes. With the 20 galaxies, you have 20 very important wormholes. Maybe we can see some fleet battles at these locations.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #129 on: December 23, 2013, 08:58:38 pm »

Thing is, GiH, would a single empire be able to break it?

I mean, if they entrench themselves hard enough...
Thing is, it's based much more on player counts and empire space rather than empire count.  In the current system (read: as of like July) the available ships you can field is your online players + officers, so that's your Players + Moderate Temperature Planets.  Officers can be slaved to follow orders, bringing their own ship, and players can captain their own vessel as well.

In theory, one empire could dominate a dozen empires, assuming it had more active ships.  If this doesn't change, then it's simply a matter of agreeing on a time to be on (or doing terrible inactive raids) and bringing collective armies to bear.  B12 could, and probably should, take their own galaxy.  The Mountainhome.

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #130 on: December 23, 2013, 09:00:50 pm »

I'm kinda interested in this. It looks simple enough for me to run it, at least :P

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #131 on: December 23, 2013, 09:10:57 pm »

Be aware that it lags to buggery and back, and it's FPS is below the 24-ish limit for humans to see it as smooth movement.

Seriously, moving takes about three seconds to register, and it's like watching a fast slideshow.
This happens most often planetside though.  In space, FPS improves drastically.

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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #132 on: December 23, 2013, 09:12:03 pm »

Indeed. It's pretty on-and-off too, regardless of how powerful your graphics card is. But as a general rule, space battles won't suffer from FPS problems whereas running around on a planet is a crapshoot.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #133 on: December 23, 2013, 09:21:56 pm »

Ah, Shouldn't be too much of a problem for me. I plan on avoiding the city-managing stuff, and plan on being a ship designer/bounty-hunter/pirate/military guy, depending on how I feel and what is needed.
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Re: Shores of Hazeron (new thread with the last updates)
« Reply #134 on: December 23, 2013, 09:25:51 pm »

Based off of reading some of the game manuals, this looks right up my alley. I can handle being some form of administrator. What is combat like? I cant see anything mentioning it in the game manuals.
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