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[Bdthemag]

Again, there's not much to think out. It's a simple problem, with a simple solution. We're not the kind of community that has to worry about most kinds of board splits.

[Nerjin]

I'm just saying let's not act hastily. Whatever we do is bound to upset some forumites. We should consider each option, weighing pros and cons, and then decide what action to take based on whatever action course helps the most players. Then we gotta convince Toady. If we just throw a "hey do this" it's less likely to work than a "We were all talking about it, considered A, B, C, and D. We found that B would be extremely helpful because a, b, c, and d. So if you would could you assist us with B."

This assumes we need him to intervene.

[Fniff]

We have weighed pros and cons. The Nursery system is a compromise but it's too overly complicated. The tag system is a complete compromise which would allow easy identificiation, but the problem is that it doesn't really solve the main problem at hand.

[Nerjin]

Yes but the issue was just recently raised and, apparently, we still haven't reached a solid conclusion.

[Fniff]

Well, let's wait for the opposition to come out with their arguments against it, then.

[hops]

I like suggestion games and run a few shitty ones myself, and I can't see why the segregation would cause any problems.

[Mullet Master]

I think the only thing you'll have Toady go for is moving suggestion games to their own subforum.
I don't think he's going to let anyone moderate the current forum, so any other suggestion that involves complicated thread moving/voting schemes is going to be practicable, so it's probably not worth discussing further.

Maybe some extremely long lived games in any genre can be moved to yet another subforum to keep fresh games on the first page.

[Fniff]

Eh, I'd rather not run into the problem of too many subforums, I think long lived games should stay where they are.

[GreatWyrmGold]

The Cyberwarfare thing is a Suggestion RPG hybrid, and from what I've seen it's best defined as an RPG.

And it's not alone. I've got a couple of (languishing) suggestion games which use RPG mechanics; if there were multiple characters, they'd undeniably be RPGs.

Personally, I don't see the problem. Are there a lot of suggestion games? Yes. Are most suggestion games worthless, cheap ones? Yes. Are most of the active ones--ie those in the first few pages--the worthless ones? Not from what I've seen.
I just don't see the problem.

[Remuthra]

I agree. There doesn't really seem to be much of a problem. If bad suggestion games were obscuring the other games, there would have to be a lot more of them being created, because they only survive for a few pages.

[Bdthemag]

Again, the problem is that all of those non-suggestion games won't be easily found with all of these suggestion games popping up everyday. I don't want to make a forum game, only to have to bump it multiple times throughout a short-time span because multiple short-lived and poorly made suggestion games clutter up the forum.

The Cyberwarfare thing is a Suggestion RPG hybrid, and from what I've seen it's best defined as an RPG.

And it's not alone. I've got a couple of (languishing) suggestion games which use RPG mechanics; if there were multiple characters, they'd undeniably be RPGs.

Then you make the decision on which forum it'd be on. A suggestion game with stats is not a full blown RPG, it's a suggestion game with RPG elements. If you think your game fits more on FG:RP, then make it there instead. I'm not sure why I have to repeat myself this much.

[filiusenox]

I have an idea, yo'. People could just click on those helpful little page numbers at the bottom and look for the games they like and post in them. It seems lazy to want to have Toady to fix something that isn't broken.

If the suggestion game sucks? Don't post in it. It will die eventually. If it's cool or has a good title or a bunch of post? Look over it and read it and post. Not that hard of a fix.

I really don't see what the problem is, besides people's inherent and apparent laziness.

[Remuthra]

How many suggestion games are made in a day? Because as far as I've seen there aren't many.

[freeformschooler]

Again, the problem is that all of those non-suggestion games won't be easily found with all of these suggestion games popping up everyday. I don't want to make a forum game, only to have to bump it multiple times throughout a short-time span because multiple short-lived and poorly made suggestion games clutter up the forum.

Why do you have to bump your game up, exactly? I mean, I understand not liking suggestion games and not liking the clutter. However, I've never had any issues with getting players to sign up for an RPG or anything. If it's not getting any signups that's probably because there's not enough interest, not because people are too lazy to look past the first page.

[Slayerhero90]

I have an idea, yo'. People could just click on those helpful little page numbers at the bottom and look for the games they like and post in them. It seems lazy to want to have Toady to fix something that isn't broken.

Thing is, most people looking for a suggestion game, or any cool topic to post in, don't often look past the first page. I do so specifically because if I don't find anything besides SGs, I expect more nothing and SGs on the other pages.