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Re: Monogamy?
« Reply #75 on: March 15, 2013, 08:29:52 pm »

... that's probably more cultural than anything, yeah. Kids in general, regardless of gender, are pretty incautious. You've just happened to grow up in a society where indulgence in suicidal stupidity is a little more encouraged for males.
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« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2013, 09:27:54 pm »

There's actually a higher chance of getting a boy than a girl. Sadly, I learned this fact in my statistics class and not my genetics class so the prof didn't know why :P
What I've heard is that males die in the womb slightly more often, so it balances out to being roughly equal at birth.  Thus the explanation above for the 1:1 gender ratio fits.

How did that explain anything? The post was: "There are more boy fetuses" and your response: "Boy fetuses die more often." Where's the explanation part? I believe both of these are true, but they don't explain anything.
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« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2013, 09:41:59 pm »

The explanation I was referring to was in your post.
Yes, this. If there are 300 females for every male, males have better chance of reproducing. Thus favoring male births (and vice versa).

Wikipedia knows it all:
1. Suppose male births are less common than female.
2. A newborn male then has better mating prospects than a newborn female, and therefore can expect to have more offspring.
3. Therefore parents genetically disposed to produce males tend to have more than average numbers of grandchildren born to them.
4. Therefore the genes for male-producing tendencies spread, and male births become more common.
5. As the 1:1 sex ratio is approached, the advantage associated with producing males dies away.
6. The same reasoning holds if females are substituted for males throughout. Therefore 1:1 is the equilibrium ratio.
This tells us "You would expect it to balance out so that there is a 1:1 ratio of male and female babies".  But it doesn't explain why there'd be more male fetuses.

Add in the information that more male fetuses die and it makes more sense: in order to achieve a 1:1 gender ratio at birth you'd need more male fetuses.

I guess technically you'd want to factor in child mortality too, but I'm not aware of any gender difference there and it doesn't change the basic idea.
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« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2013, 12:54:23 am »

Oops, sorry. That was stupid of me, I thought those two posts alone were supposed to explain something.  :-[
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« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2013, 01:30:21 am »

I thought there are more male children born, and it only evens out in total population because women live longer. IIRC there was something about y chromosome being much smaller than x, making sperms with it lighter and thus faster swimmers.
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« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2013, 02:13:11 am »

I read that men are slowly dieing out, and that even now the population split is something like 49.9% to 50.1%.
but then again it was a cracked article...
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« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2013, 04:09:47 am »

Men have shorter lifespans on average (due to the different hormone's effects on the body, iirc), which is probably the cause of that.
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Re: Monogamy?
« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2013, 09:52:44 am »

I thought there are more male children born, and it only evens out in total population because women live longer. IIRC there was something about y chromosome being much smaller than x, making sperms with it lighter and thus faster swimmers.
Yep. This is how we can sex-select babies, because spinning the sperm in a centrifuge at a specific speed will send most of the X sperm to the end of the container while most of the Y sperm will stay where they are. It isn't perfect, but it works more often than not.
I read that men are slowly dieing out, and that even now the population split is something like 49.9% to 50.1%.
but then again it was a cracked article...
Men are not dying out and could not die out, because female humans are not capable of parthenogenesis. Because women live longer, developed regions have a greater total number of females.
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Re: Monogamy?
« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2013, 12:54:22 pm »

I read that men are slowly dieing out, and that even now the population split is something like 49.9% to 50.1%.
but then again it was a cracked article...
Men are not dying out and could not die out, because female humans are not capable of parthenogenesis. Because women live longer, developed regions have a greater total number of females.
Yeah I assumed that was BS. Cracked is a pretty funny website but it's science can be shaky at times.
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« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2013, 01:00:51 pm »

On topic, I've been cheating on Coca - Cola with Pepsi since about October. Do you think they'll mind if I thrash things out with them, or is it best kept as a dirty little secret?

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« Reply #85 on: March 16, 2013, 01:02:55 pm »

Coca-Cola is bland anyway. Just stick with Pepsi, created in the greatest place on Earth, crucible of all good in the Universe, North Carolina.

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Re: Monogamy?
« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2013, 04:32:55 pm »

If you're going to do cola, it should be RC cola. It may not have been the first, but it's pretty much always been the best.
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Re: Monogamy?
« Reply #87 on: March 16, 2013, 04:41:39 pm »

Coca-Cola is bland anyway. Just stick with Pepsi, created in the greatest place on Earth, crucible of all good in the Universe, North Carolina.

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