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[TheBiggerFish]

What the hell is up with 2016?

2016 is up with 2016 :u

[Guardian G.I.]

"Democracy"


exhibit a: police slowly moving people with five-deep shield formations, first off the road then onto smaller and smaller areas and crushing them between hundreds of healthy young men, trying to bait violence

exhibit b: police announcing that any people who don't go home will be arrested

exhibit c: spotlights trained on people to make them hard to see


some predictions:

"civilians" who will start hitting the police, giving the police an excuse to start violently subduing the protesting civilians
water trucks which will blast firetruck-strength freezing water in the 4 degree centrigrade weather, strong enough to knock a horse over
mass arrests in the name of order


we dystopia boys



BONUS:

this guy does not want to be here
unfortunately he has no choice because he's a drafted soldier.


edit2: the police are taking videos of the protestors.

North Korean propagandists will have a field day with all this mess.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

They're already having a field day with it. One descriptor that keeps coming up for Park is "tailless", I'm....not....really sure what that means.

[Loud Whispers]

North Korean propagandists will have a field day with all this mess.

There is no propaganda that could be spun from this that wouldn't be worse than the plain truth

They're already having a field day with it. One descriptor that keeps coming up for Park is "tailless", I'm....not....really sure what that means.

A head with no one following

[smjjames]

They're already having a field day with it. One descriptor that keeps coming up for Park is "tailless", I'm....not....really sure what that means.

Is that the google translate attempt or the literal translation? I have no idea myself. Maybe something akin to 'has no balls' (despite her biologically having 'no balls' anyway)?

Though LW's explaination probably makes more sense.

[Guardian G.I.]

They're already having a field day with it. One descriptor that keeps coming up for Park is "tailless", I'm....not....really sure what that means.

Articles from KCNA's website about the scandal:

Spoiler: Not Safe for South Korean Work (click to show/hide)

S. Korean Paper Slams Park Geun Hye's Charade to Deceive People
    Pyongyang, October 29 (KCNA) -- The south Korean internet newspaper Voice of People carried an editorial on Oct. 28.
    According to the result of opinion poll on Oct. 26, it said that most of respondents urged Park Geun Hye to step down from office of her own accord and that the "National Assembly" should promote impeachment. Those who expressed disappointment and indignation at Park's "apology to the people" went beyond 80 percent, it said.
    The apology is no more than a charade to deceive the people, it noted.

Park Geun Hye Disqualified as "President": S. Korean Paper
    Pyongyang, October 29 (KCNA) -- The south Korean Kyunghyang Daily News on Oct. 27 in an editorial accused Park Geun Hye of limiting the time and scope of advices she received from Choe Sun Sil in her "apology to people" on Oct. 25.
    The editorial continued:
    Everything she uttered turned out to be a lie in a few hours later. Testimonies were made here and there that even recently Choe Sun Sil interfered in all aspects of administration including diplomacy, security and personnel affair. It is confusing to see the "president" who talked a lie while making an apology with tears in her eyes.
    We can no longer believe words of Park Geun Hye. She lost confidence.
    This means she is disqualified as "president".

South Korean Online Paper Urges Park Geun Hye to Draw Last Lesson at Crossroads
    Pyongyang, October 28 (KCNA) -- The south Korean online paper Minjok Ilbo in an editorial on Oct. 26 said:
    It has been confirmed that Choe Sun SIl received beforehand speeches of the "president" and speeches to be made by her at the "state council meeting."
    Voices are being heard from people of different social standings that Park Geun Hye should be impeached and step down.

S. Korean CBS Denounces Park Geun Hye for Bringing Worst Political Crisis
    Pyongyang, October 28 (KCNA) -- The south Korean CBS on Wednesday denounced traitor Park Geun Hye for inviting the worst political crisis.
    It said that the present crisis is the unprecedented one reminding one of the naked king in a fairy tale.
    It went on:
    Park Geun Hye through her "apology to the people" admitted Choe Sun Sil's interference in state affairs only to confess that she had talked a lie.
    People say it is not sincere apology as she failed to give instructions on investigation into Choe Sun Sil and express the will to punish her and clarify the issue of U Pyong U.
    The "president" should give instructions on strict and special investigation into the case and totally reshuffle Chongwadae team of secretaries including U Pyong U, if she really wants to clear the people of the suspicion.


S. Korean Online Paper Terms Choe Sun Sil Case Shocking
    Pyongyang, October 28 (KCNA) -- An editorial titled "Something unprecedented in feudal era occurs" was posted on the south Korean online paper Voice of People on Oct. 25.
    Shocking is the report of JTBC that remaining in a computer left by Choe Sun Sil were not only a speech made by Park Geun Hye but a trace of correction made of it, the editorial deplored.
    The computer files contained a speech made by Park at the time of her election as "president", her written impressions and the "Dresden declaration" published by her in Germany, and the time when the file was stored preceded the real time of its publication, it said, adding it is clear that Choe Sun Sil played a role in writing the speech of Park Geun Hye.
    Recalling that the chief of staff of Chongwadae refuted the case, saying "it was something unthinkable even in the feudal era, the editorial noted: But it is shocking as it was confirmed as truth.


"Choe Sun Sil Gate" Inseparable from Park Geun Hye: S. Korean Organization
    Pyongyang, October 28 (KCNA) -- The Citizens Solidarity for Democratic Society in south Korea made public a statement on Oct. 25.
    The statement said it has been disclosed through media that Choe Sun Sil having real power behind Park Geun Hye read beforehand speeches of the "president" and her speeches to be made at the "state council meeting".
    It pointed out that it has been confirmed that the "Choe Sun Sil gate" is inseparable from Chongwadae and "president," in particular.
    Park should not attempt to refuse the probe into the truth and shut her mouth, it noted, adding:
    She should probe the truth and cooperate in every matter so that the truth may be probed by media and the "National Assembly".

[Skyrunner]

^ A hundred police politely listen to a woman making a rambling speech about patriotism.

It seems that at least today the protests will be ended peacefully. It is 3am in South Korea and freezing cold. To be continiued...

[Ruludos]

ptw

[Reelya]

Everyone, breathe calmly

Korea has five-year single-term presidential limits. When that guy committed suicide he was already out of politics. So ... did the guy who was already elected have anything to do with killing off a previous president? That would be pure conjecture. It's not like the new guy had to worry about re-election chances (since you can't run for re-election). Similarly, President Park will be gone as of February 2018, which is just over 1 year from now. Some people want to remove her early, but what difference would it really make?

And ... being influenced by a religious type, who's mixed up in iffy financial practices. Say hello to America. The only reason we're hearing about this is because this Choi woman's religion isn't a mainstream one in Korea, thus the Korean media is pushing the story. It's like if a prominent Muslim cleric was backing a candidate. It would be big news in USA, not so big news in Saudi Arabia.

This is something you need to be aware of when looking at another countries news, the issue framing might be completely different for things which are not really any different. e.g. teen suicide rates in Japan. We hear all about it because the Japanese media is all over this, thus western journalists pick this up for pithy stories about "what's to be done with the Japanese suicide rate". But rates in the USA are rising too, and you hardly ever hear about that. There's not a huge difference in the suicide rates for under 20's in both countries. When does anyone in the USA give enough of a fuck about that to write a news report about it?

I looked at the figures, Japan's suicide rate is higher, but only if you look at older people. It spikes up compared to USA in the college-aged years, not in the highschool years, probably due to how competitive it is to get a job. But Japanese media is fixated on "teen suicides" not "college student suicides" because "teens" sells more panic. You should never take on faith how the media of a particular country frames an issue.

[Flying Dice]

Reelya, there's a little teensy bit of difference between "influenced by" and "has literally all her policies and decisions dictated by".

Not a Muslim cleric, it's like we found out the U.S. president was a fucking Scientologist.

[TheBiggerFish]

Yyyeah, that's not influence, that's Illuminati levels of control.

[Reelya]

Reelya, there's a little teensy bit of difference between "influenced by" and "has literally all her policies and decisions dictated by".

Not a Muslim cleric, it's like we found out the U.S. president was a fucking Scientologist.

Are we buying some hype here or is there evidence? I didn't see any evidence presented in any of the articles. This seems like a panic.

[Loud Whispers]

We hear all about it because the Japanese media is all over this, thus western journalists pick this up for pithy stories about "what's to be done with the Japanese suicide rate". But rates in the USA are rising too, and you hardly ever hear about that. There's not a huge difference in the suicide rates for under 20's in both countries. When does anyone in the USA give enough of a fuck about that to write a news report about it?

Your worldview is not my worldview, I talk about that shit loadsa times - heck, I recall you being one of the observers at some time thinking I sounded like one of your country's preachers when I brought it up :P

You should never take on faith how the media of a particular country frames an issue.

I don't you cheeky shill, you've overlooked how the media can't frame the President's own admission in much positive ways - and fuck American media :]

Reelya, there's a little teensy bit of difference between "influenced by" and "has literally all her policies and decisions dictated by".
Not a Muslim cleric, it's like we found out the U.S. president was a fucking Scientologist.

*Scientologist raised by a shaman since at least she was 23, convincing her that the only way to contact her dead mother was through her - as long as she obeyed her commands. Not including the other 7 billionaire goddess members not identified

[Reelya]

one of your country's preachers

Are you sure you're not mixing me up with someone else? We really don't have any prominent "preachers" here to my knowledge. Australia is a very secular country. The only religious types I'm familiar with are the catholic and church of England archbishops. And I doubt I was comparing you to one of them. I also don't recall either them or you discussing youth suicide rates, so I'm not sure what thread that would even be in.

Your worldview is not my worldview, I talk about that shit loadsa times

But you're not "the media". Some random on a forum discussing a topic isn't the same thing as saying a country's media does or doesn't focus on a topic.

[TempAcc]

Dude, I dont know about your worldview, but I come from the mystical land of br, so when I go full "wat" in regards to some political scandal, then its very likely said scandal is very much worth of wat.