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[Frumple]

Here's a question for everyone. In all seriousness, we know that North Korea is a terrible, authoritarian State. At what point does toppling it become justifiable in terms of North Korean, South Korean, and American materiel, lives, and money?

As near as anyone can tell, s'far as I've been able to gather, the point doesn't exist. There's just nothing about NK that would make it worth the cost.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's questionable how much of their artillery structure actually still works.

[MonkeyHead]

Though the best way to find out would not be sending infantry over the DMZ.

[Dutchling]

How viable would be nuking the DMZ (with love)?

[MonkeyHead]

About as viable as nuking anywhere else I imagine. Which means zero.

[Dutchling]

Aww.

[MaximumZero]

Though the best way to find out would not be sending infantry over the DMZ.

That's what ICBMs are for, man. Though, I still want to challenge Kim Jong-Un to a cage fight in a bulletproof cage.

[LordSlowpoke]

actually let's nuke the dmz

retroactively justify their entire nuclear program

it'll be the pinnacle of comedy

[MaximumZero]

Though the best way to find out would not be sending infantry over the DMZ.

That's what ICBMs are for, man. Though, I still want to challenge Kim Jong-Un to a cage fight in a bulletproof cage.

You don't want to challenge his potato?

That was just a crazy dream I had. The crazy pipe dream that I have is to punch out Un.

[jimboo]

In all seriousness, we know that North Korea is a terrible, authoritarian State. At what point does toppling it become justifiable in terms of North Korean, South Korean, and American materiel, lives, and money?

It doesn’t, ever.  Standard ROI calculation while factoring in the Law of Unintended Consequences.  Anyone who thinks American/UN forces are there only or even mostly as “peacekeepers” should revisit Eisenhower’s prophetic farewell address:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY
53 years ago this week.  One of the most important speeches of the 20th century from a President not beholden to any group or corporation. 

[misko27]

In all seriousness, we know that North Korea is a terrible, authoritarian State. At what point does toppling it become justifiable in terms of North Korean, South Korean, and American materiel, lives, and money?

It doesn’t, ever.  Standard ROI calculation while factoring in the Law of Unintended Consequences.  Anyone who thinks American/UN forces are there only or even mostly as “peacekeepers” should revisit Eisenhower’s prophetic farewell address:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY
53 years ago this week.  One of the most important speeches of the 20th century from a President not beholden to any group or corporation.

Etc, etc, etc. I think you are ignoring the fact that North Korea is insane, and could easily end millions of lives in a matter of days. Those soldiers are there because North Korea is dangerous, has been dangerous for quite some time, and will continue to be dangerous.

[Beast Tamer]

Their military is equipped with obsolete cast-offs from the Soviet Era military. While North Korea is a bit odd, they know that trying to start a modern day war against South Korea or the US would end in their total destruction. They may be able to do some damage, especially if they shoot missiles at Seoul, but such a "victory" would be short lived. The United States have a type of tank that has never been destroyed in combat, carriers, drones, and jet planes out the wazoo, and a military more capable of rapid mobilization than any other force known today.  The North Koreans have a Special Forces unit that punches things, few of which are likely to be bullets or missiles(number four on the list).

Think of the situation as a staring contest between a benign psychopath and a rich government man. In any contest North Korea will lose, badly.

[MonkeyHead]

Yes, but they sure as hell would go down kicking, biting, clawing and screaming.

[LordSlowpoke]

the tank has never been destroyed in combat because since the proxy wars with the soviet union they never had anything better than tanks from the 70s to compete with ror

besides things just get sniped by drones nowadays

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I'd suggest Kim Jong-Un to liberate Korean city Vladivostok. Then it will be not so one sided as against USA but mad enough to have a right to be called a crazy dictator