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[Descan]

Anonymous does something every few months that everyone goes "if they did more of that, I'd respect them more" and then promptly forgets about.

Don't ask me for specifics, I've forgotten.

[Loud Whispers]

Anonymous is made up of riff raffs.

What big, useful things have they done? Is there something resembling central leadership?

1. Anything
2. Everyone and anyone

[Scelly9]

Actually, now that I think about it they did take down a couple of child porn sites, as well as a few of the users.

Anonymous is made up of riff raffs.

What big, useful things have they done? Is there something resembling central leadership?

Other than the whole Scientology fiasco, not much. Not really.

Heard about it, know very little about it. Please tell me more.

Basically, they decided that Scientology was bad in general, so they DDOSed their websites, protested outside their buildings, spammed their printers, and where generally annoying. It raised some awareness against Scientology, but mostly just increased the size of Anonymous. It don't know a ton about it, but here's more info.

[Morrigi]

Offshoots of Anonymous also hacked the FBI's IT security contractors, one of which was subverted by elementary social engineering.

They DDOS'd corporations that refused service to Wikileaks after they released their documents in 2010.

They created a script allowing Tunisians to proof their web browsers against government surveillance during the Arab Spring uprising there. They also hacked the Tunisian Prime Minister's webpage, replacing it with a message from Anonymous.

They hacked one of the Westboro Baptist Church's websites during a live interview and later released the personal information of members after the WBS announced plans to petition the funerals of the Sandy Hook shooting victims.

They appear at nearly every large-scale protest in the Western world.

They have shown that a group of random citizens can cause considerable change in the world, an example of which would be sending the U.S. Government on a wild goose chase after their "leaders".

They have found and reported a number of pedophiles and sex offenders after ordering dozens of pizzas to their houses.

They solved the Rehtaeh Parsons rape case in Canada after any efforts of prosecution was given up by the authorities due to a "lack of evidence". The perpetrators were identified after two hours.

They exposed the truth during the Steubenville rape case. The man allegedly behind the information gathered was arrested by an FBI S.W.A.T. team and may spend more time in jail than the rapists.

They cannot be stopped due to the complete lack of leadership and structure of crowd psychology.

They and corporations that support similar ideals are the last bastion of defense preventing the internet from being directly controlled by oppressive government regimes.


From nearly all political views, they have done at least some good for society in spite of their vigilante nature, and they will not be going away any time soon.

[Scelly9]

'They and corporations that support similar ideals are the last bastion of defense preventing the internet from being directly controlled by oppressive government regimes.'

No. Just... no.

Apart from that, a pretty good summary of what they do.

[ibot66]

'They and corporations that support similar ideals are the last bastion of defense preventing the internet from being directly controlled by oppressive government regimes.'

No. Just... no.

Apart from that, a pretty good summary of what they do.

Yeah, last lines reeks of bias and propaganda. There a bunch of bored Internet assholes using their dickishness for fairly decent.

[misko27]

They appear at nearly every large-scale protest in the Western world.

So do Trotskyists. Think about it.

They have found and reported a number of pedophiles and sex offenders after ordering dozens of pizzas to their houses.

"We shall defeat them with Pizza! THEN THEY WILL GET DIABETES, AND DIE! MUAHAHAHHA!" Or does the pizza have a zombie plague or something?

They cannot be stopped due to the complete lack of leadership and structure of crowd psychology.

Neither can the Trotskyists, again (Not after ol'Leon took a Ice Pick to the neck). They can be made irrelevant.

They and corporations that support similar ideals are the last bastion of defense preventing the internet from being directly controlled by oppressive government regimes.

I fear corporations more then I fear my government. And more importantly I fear base humanity more then both of them. (And I fear Zombie Trotsky the most)

From nearly all political views, they have done at least some good for society in spite of their vigilante nature, and they will not be going away any time soon.

What if, my political view was Authoritarian? What about my opinion? Or does that one not matter because it is wrong? And what if Zombie Trotsky wants me to oppress the masses? Your Philosophy does not account for that!!!!

Today I learned using the quote button inside another quote, on a new line, with the "toggle view" set to "what your post will look like" mode. reverses the order of the tags, allowing you to stick comments in easily. Is Good Day.

[RedWarrior0]

Also they wear Guy Fawkes masks from V for Vendetta.

[MonkeyHead]

Also they wear Guy Fawkes masks from V for Vendetta.

I find that an odd choice. Guy Fawkes was traitor who fought for the Spanish and later was part of a plot to murder a legitamite leader (who was a relativley good king given the standards of the day and well liked by the populace) motivated by a clash of religions.

Are Anonymous trying to tell us they want to blow up leaders that we like and that they will side with those who wish to see our way of life opressed?

[Loud Whispers]

Also they wear Guy Fawkes masks from V for Vendetta.

I find that an odd choice. Guy Fawkes was traitor who fought for the Spanish and later was part of a plot to murder a legitamite leader (who was a relativley good king given the standards of the day and well liked by the populace) motivated by a clash of religions.

Are Anonymous trying to tell us they want to blow up leaders that we like and that they will side with those who wish to see our way of life opressed?

All you guys are pretty wrong about what Anonymous is and was.

Well, methink Anonymous is pulling stuff out of their asses. Together with the realease of public document, it's really ridiculous.

There is Anonymous, the state of being a part of the collective unknown. Then there is the group, which came in three waves.
First wave Anonymous were made up of Oldfriends who built totally unrestricted free speech ideals, where nothing was taboo'd enough to warrant use and abuse. Non extant, but there are groups who seek to revive this wave. Can be summed up in Oprah vs over 9000 penises.
Second wave Anonymous were made up of Anons who did that, but instead of targeting opportunities, they targeted establishments against liberties - most famously of course being battletoads vs Scientology.
Third wave Anonymous is made up of everyone and your Aunt and cares about being a blob of social justice warriors, can can be summed up by people using Guy Fawkes' mask without knowing what is the significance of being a Catholic terrorist trying to blow up a newly founded democracy to install papacy.

In addition the third wave has been taken over by political groups and intelligence agents, it stopped having any exclusivity a long, long time ago. By internet years.
The original Anons were a bunch of dicks basically, the only symbolism was one of nihilistic hedonism. Though in pop-culture the V for vendetta mask has become associated with protest against an overbearing government.

There is no real 'sign here for Anonymoose' sort of deal.

[Guardian G.I.]

In my opinion, the Anonymous didn't manage to break into North Korean intranet. The fact that their screenshots of the Kwangmyong network have been on the South Korean internet since 2005 suggests that they are simply bluffing.

Also:

Ministry of People's Security Vows to Punish Defectors Keen on Escalating Confrontation

   Pyongyang, June 19 (KCNA) -- The Ministry of People's Security of the DPRK issued the following special statement Wednesday:
    The DPRK, a country dignified with independence and powerful with Songun, is enjoying the greatest dignity with a bright prospect of socialism of Juche.
    The world is looking enviously at the army and people of the DPRK dashing ahead toward the final victory in sight on the horizon at the "Masikryong Speed". Meanwhile, the moves to isolate and stifle the DPRK on the part of the dishonest and hostile forces have faced bankruptcy.
    A handful of human scum are moving desperately to deter this progress.
    Park Geun Hye and other present puppet authorities of south Korea are openly putting to the fore human scum belonging to the organizations of vicious defectors from the north, painting them as "experts in north Korean issue" and instigating stepped-up criticism.
    On June 18, south Korea fed Yonhap News and The Washington Post with articles contributed by defectors saying that copies of book "My Struggle" authored by Hitler were presented to officials in the DPRK as gifts and campaign is now under way to learn from the experiences gained in rebuilding the "Third Empire" that existed in Germany after the First World War.
    They even committed the thrice-cursed crime of belittling the matchless great personality of the leader of the DPRK reflected in his loving care for the future generations.
    The army and people of the DPRK regard it as shame to make mention of defectors from the north, a group of wild dogs in human form.
    The group of human scum marginalized in the bright world has become the main player in the confrontation farce under the patronage of the south Korean puppet group and brigandish U.S. imperialists. They even slandered and insulted the dignity and the social system of the DPRK, an act which can neither be overlooked nor tolerated.
    By origin, defectors are human scum who were deserted even by home folks and kinsmen being branded as elements subject to legal punishment in clean society in the DPRK for their crimes of murder, robbery, pilferage, embezzlement of state properties and corruption.
    South Koreans also know this.
    But the south Korean authorities try to escalate confrontation with the DPRK by using them and the U.S. seeks to overthrow the social system in the DPRK in reliance on them. This proves the poor plight of the Park Geun Hye regime and the U.S. politics.
    It is none other than the present puppet authorities of south Korea which seek to fan up confrontation wind despite their loud-mouthed ballad for "confidence" and "dialogue". And it is the U.S. which moves overtly and covertly to topple the social system in the DPRK despite its stereo-typed call for peace and security on the Korean Peninsula.
    No matter how desperately the puppet group of south Korea may try being gripped in extreme uneasiness and horror, they can never prolong their dirty remaining days. The U.S., which tries to attain its aggression aim in reliance on the group, is bound to face bankruptcy in its hostile policy toward the DPRK.
    The National Defence Commission of the DPRK on June 16 warned that all the future developments depend on the U.S. responsible option.
    The army and people of the DPRK are strongly calling for punishing those human scum as early as possible as they are going hysteric as servants escalating confrontation with fellow countrymen, far from trying to redress their crime-woven past with death.
    There are daily requests from home folks and kinsmen of those defectors for letting them kill human scum with their own hands.
    The Ministry of People's Security of the DPRK, reflecting the grudge of all its service personnel and people, is determined to take substantial measures to physically remove despicable human scum who are committing treasons at the instigation of the south Korean puppet authorities and the gangster-like U.S.
    Sordid human scum will never be able to look up to the sky nor be able to find an inch of land to be buried after their death.
    The U.S. and the south Korean authorities and wicked conservative media resorting to smear campaign against the DPRK in reliance on them will be made to meet merciless punishment of justice.

[Loud Whispers]

    There are daily requests from home folks and kinsmen of those defectors for letting them kill human scum with their own hands.

For fucks sakes, what the hell Kim.

[jimboo]

In my opinion, the Anonymous didn't manage to break into North Korean intranet. The fact that their screenshots of the Kwangmyong network have been on the South Korean internet since 2005 suggests that they are simply bluffing.

Post hoc ergo propter hoc is Latin for "Actually, it's most likely a coincidence and shouldn't be used as justification to draw inference."   

[Owlbread]

A occurred, then B occurred.

Therefore, A caused B.

Fallacious indeed.

[jimboo]

In my opinion, (clip).

Still, I do really like your avatar.