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[RedKing]

Here's a likely course for NK to pursue:

1. Raise the ante by scrapping the ceasefire treaties (check)
2. Convince the US to enter peace treaty negotiations.
3. Some of the embargos and sanctions are lifted.
4. Export to US
5. Literally profit.

Beijing doesn't have much sway with NK anymore. They got fed up of lapping up the scraps Beijing gave them.

I sorta think you're wrong on this one.Mostly because they don't simply give scraps, they literally run their entire economy. it more like their acting out against them, trying to avoid being a new province. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/22/china-stops-oil-exports-north-korea-possibly-punis/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS


And they are failing.

I'm not sure whether China would want to add the province of Beihan or not. It's kind of like West Germany reintegrating East Germany -- the cost outweighs the benefits for decades.

[Aseaheru]

Just a random bit of me going and randomly saying shit:

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We are still at war with them. we just have had a cease fire.

I hope no one else has said that.

[10ebbor10]

Just a random bit of me going and randomly saying shit:

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We are still at war with them. we just have had a cease fire.

I hope no one else has said that.

NK said that when they cancelled it some time ago.

[Aseaheru]

ah. sorry.

[misko27]

Well given they have at most ten, I doubt the interceptors would have too much trouble.

[10ebbor10]

Well given they have at most ten, I doubt the interceptors would have too much trouble.

Nuclear missiles are ballistic projectiles. Also quite fast. It doesn't matter how much missiles the US has aimed there, they only have one shot* for each nuke before it's boosting stage cuts out and the missiles goes ballistical. Even if they are not outside of the missiles range by that point, they suddenly become much harder to track and intercept.

*Maybe 2-3 but certainly not much more. Boosting usually takes little under a minute, afterall.

[Skyrunner]

Here's a likely course for NK to pursue:

1. Raise the ante by scrapping the ceasefire treaties (check)
2. Convince the US to enter peace treaty negotiations.
3. Some of the embargos and sanctions are lifted.
4. Export to US
5. Literally profit.

Beijing doesn't have much sway with NK anymore. They got fed up of lapping up the scraps Beijing gave them.

I sorta think you're wrong on this one.Mostly because they don't simply give scraps, they literally run their entire economy. it more like their acting out against them, trying to avoid being a new province. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/22/china-stops-oil-exports-north-korea-possibly-punis/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS


And they are failing.

That's what I said—Beijing only gives NK just enough to not starve. Nothing more.

Also, NK realized that China wants very much to fleece NK for what it has. It had tension over a couple of business projects recently iirc.

[lordcooper]

NK has stuff now?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That's what I said—Beijing only gives NK just enough to not starve publicly cannibalize the ones who die of starvation. Nothing more.

You wish I was making that up.

NK has stuff now?

No. They don't even have relative stuff. Their absolute stuff is not increasing at all.

[Another]

NK has people that are willing to work for lower than the chinese. That could be used in some circumstances.

[Skyrunner]

NK has stuff now?

China helped NK develop a mine in exchange for a substantial share in the metal, I think. And NK complained of China raising the amount of ore China got...

Also, NK has a port in development that China is financing for direct land->sea access to the Pacific, instead of thru the Yellow Sea.

[freeformschooler]

NK has the Pirate Bay now!

Take your stealing elsewhere guys, you're supporting the DPRK

[Sirus]

NK has the Pirate Bay now!

Take your stealing elsewhere guys, you're supporting the DPRK

That was fake, IIRC.

[Owlbread]

I think the most depressing thing that will come out of this is that North Korea is probably going to be exactly the same by the end of the year.

[MaximumZero]

Agreed.