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Author Topic: Leaders of A Burning World (OOC+Signup+Interest check)  (Read 30115 times)

Remuthra

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Re: Leaders of A Burning World (OOC+Signup+Interest check)
« Reply #255 on: April 24, 2013, 09:01:54 pm »

Considering I've never mentioned it, never acted on it, and I had to point it out for you to notice, I don't think it's unlikely. And I have an authoritarian theocracy dedicated to making the people safer, you'd be surprised how much like 1984 this can get.

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« Reply #256 on: April 24, 2013, 09:03:29 pm »

North Korea, which has been secluded much longer, had brainwashing for much longer, can't keep secrets not even close to that magnitude. It also has a closed border, and people still get out.
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« Reply #257 on: April 24, 2013, 09:06:43 pm »

I concede that it may be rumor and hearsay at this point, maybe a few pictures. Nothing concrete of course, but enough that I can use it to embarass you.
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« Reply #258 on: April 24, 2013, 09:07:43 pm »

It wasn't located in a cold wasteland right after a calamity wiped out most of the people, and it didn't form in response to the destruction of civilization. Everyone is fanatically devoted to the Safety Religion, and the government takes any measures to make the nation safe. National fanaticism is a powerful thing. If the Sky Lords don't know about this stuff, how is it you know anything?

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« Reply #259 on: April 24, 2013, 09:14:08 pm »

And you don't think North Korea is worse? Your people, unlike North Korea, can remember times of freedom. I think it's overpowered to have a 100% no-unrest no dissent population with more than 10,000 people. Such has NEVER happened in history. In the aftermath of Krakatoa, an effective 200 megaton bomb, there was nothing like this. I am willing to easily accept 99.999% loyalty, but NO dissidents?
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« Reply #260 on: April 24, 2013, 09:15:42 pm »

I didn't say I had no dissidents. They were deemed unfit for propagation of the gene pool and summarily reeducated, made to submit a formal confession and apology, and then summarily executed. We have spies everywhere in the future.

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« Reply #261 on: April 24, 2013, 09:27:17 pm »

North Korea has continual brainwashing from birth, a border that is probably 1/8th the size that has been continually fortified and improved for 60 years, a nation above that prevents people from leaving, and not even it can stop secrets from getting out. There was no government in Sumatra after an 800 megaton (other sources report it as high as 24500 megaton) explosion that garnered this level of support.
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« Reply #262 on: April 24, 2013, 09:37:22 pm »

1. Creative License
2. There isn't exactly a bordering nation to flee to.
3. North Korea doesn't have religion on their size.
4. Even North Korea doesn't take all the possible measures.

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« Reply #263 on: April 24, 2013, 09:41:57 pm »

Err, yes they do. It's a cult of personality around Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong Un.

And there doesn't need to be. Being outside of your country could be enough.

And what other measures should they take?
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« Reply #264 on: April 24, 2013, 09:43:26 pm »

It wasn't located in a cold wasteland right after a calamity wiped out most of the people, and it didn't form in response to the destruction of civilization. Everyone is fanatically devoted to the Safety Religion, and the government takes any measures to make the nation safe. National fanaticism is a powerful thing. If the Sky Lords don't know about this stuff, how is it you know anything?
Firstly, what you've claimed is pretty improbable. There are NO leaks? My invisible weightless elephant analogy might be adapted to this situation.
As noted, there is about 0% chance that you can do even half as well as North Korea, and so what you described is pretty much as impossible as you can get. If nothing else, your "purging" will drive your citizens away faster than opening a toll gate in the Berlin Wall.

1. Creative License
2. There isn't exactly a bordering nation to flee to.
3. North Korea doesn't have religion on their size.
4. Even North Korea doesn't take all the possible measures.
1. Poor excuse, especially given the magnitude.
2. That didn't stop the Cubans.
3. A ha ha ha. Besides, "religion" is hardly needed.
4. It does more than you do. And, more importantly, they've been doing so a LOT longer.
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« Reply #265 on: April 24, 2013, 09:44:43 pm »

For one, put addictive hallucinogenic drugs in all the food and drink in the nation. Ration the supplies. If you escape, you go through withdrawal, and the hallucinogenics make you see bodysnatchers.

And again, you can't claim to not know about the state religion of my nation, then claim to know all about the cullings which take place.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2013, 09:47:03 pm by Remuthra »
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« Reply #266 on: April 24, 2013, 09:48:44 pm »

What is this, I don't even...

Okay, so every single baby is dead on account of overdosing...
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« Reply #267 on: April 24, 2013, 09:49:57 pm »

The New Order doesn't care. If needed we will grow babies in laboratories under heavy guard.

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« Reply #268 on: April 24, 2013, 09:50:27 pm »

For one, put addictive hallucinogenic drugs in all the food and drink in the nation. Ration the supplies. If you escape, you go through withdrawal, and the hallucinogenics make you see bodysnatchers.

And again, you can't claim to not know about the state religion of my nation, then claim to know all about the cullings which take place.

I didn't and the Sky Lords haven't claimed to have known. They could just be hearing rumors and hearsay too about it, which doesn't constitute as knowing. We don't KNOW that you're doing it, but we're testing you to make sure you aren't crazy. We only suspect.
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« Reply #269 on: April 24, 2013, 09:53:10 pm »

Another thing. How am I supposed to sign your piece of paper?

I wait even more anxiously for the Great Plan to be ready. Until then I'll just have to stave off your religious discrimination.
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