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[Vakothu]

Well, that was an odd, but fun, round, and now the server's gone down, looks like.

E: Yep, RIP server, I think it's in limbo again.

[Liction]

people are already fixing the chatbug in the gooncode leak.

[Glloyd]

people are already fixing the chatbug in the gooncode leak.

already fixed a few hours ago.

[Aseaheru]

 Ooh, does this mean we could utilize goonkitchen?

[Kot]

Scavenge the Goon code and laugh at them for being huge pricks and not giving out their code like candy.

[Rolan7]

Most of the Goon coders are really nice though ):  They help out with tgstation occasionally, and contributed elements of code.  The tgstation project's stance on leaks was always "Don't use them without official permission".

Ah, from #coderbus title:  "Reminder that it is against policy to accept code obtained from leaks."  I'm glad (:

[KingofstarrySkies]

but
but their code is delicious and they're rude for not letting it be open-source so LET US EAT CODE

[scrdest]

Well, whether it's used or not, the cat's out of the bag now. Whatever it means for other communities, Goon just got a massive chunk of its secrets revealed to anyone competent enough to look for it.

Coder-wise, this is nothing massive. Directly lifting Gooncode is like trying to breed with a duck and claiming it'd work because you have a common ancestor - it won't work, the code 'evolution' has diverged a long time ago aside from the pieces of code that were partly released earlier like Goonchem. It is, however, a good resource for ideas and solutions they worked out, and in some ways, a how-not-to.

But it's a massive historic event in the community, that's for sure.

[Kot]

Let's impose open-source communism on all SS13 communities everywhere. The Code exists to be shared, so we can improve upon it and achieve perfection by lazily stealing other people's code.

[Rolan7]

noooo respect coders wishes ):
I think DF would be massively better in open source, I mean just look at what reverse-engineers have done, but that's Toady's decision because he did it.  Not me.

@scrdest
It's not the first snapshot from Goon, of course.  Just the first one in a long while...  Rebuilding the secrets is going to be disruptive, mainly to the Goon players I assume.  But it's not cataclysmic.

but
but their code is delicious and they're rude for not letting it be open-source so LET US EAT CODE

I mean, I did download it out of curiosity   So I've already disrespected them to an extent ):

it's not really delicious unless you really love spaghetti
but hey, this IS SS13

I don't think any serious project is going to port anything from it, maybe just use parts as inspiration.  Which was already happening, of course, in a black-box way.

[nogoodnames]

The best way I can think of them dealing with this is making an official public release. The cat's out of the bag, better to accept that fact gracefully and move on than allowing it to continue propagating through illegitimate means.

[Vakothu]

Looks like the server's totally down now, not phasing in and out.

[Glloyd]

Looks like the server's totally down now, not phasing in and out.

i'll message vac when i get home, ask him to update too.

[Glloyd]

As a second thing, I just got told in the SS13 headmin/host chat that goons are going to be officially releasing their code a la r4407.

It'll be legal and fair game.

[Vakothu]

Seems like the best option for them, honestly, no need for the hassle of lawsuits and all that stuff.  As Vactor'll be updating, so I'll go ahead and grab the newest version of our server and update my map, just so it'll be ready.
I also believe we saw Goonstation go through all five stages of grief there, from denial to acceptance.