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Author Topic: Space Station 13: Urist McStation  (Read 2121681 times)

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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21105 on: January 23, 2015, 11:12:13 am »
Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 04:37:41 am
So what are the exact differences between the "normal tg" chem-system and the bay12 system? I know a lot of things have slightly different names and there might be a limit on chems that can affect one person? Anyone got inside-know-how?

The recipes, aside from those LSP pointed out, are the same. Metabolism of chems is slower, so the effects are more distributed in time, and, if in-body reactions are enabled, which I'm not sure they are, it's easier to accidentally mix something you didn't intend in the patient.

There's an overdose value for most chems, after which you usually start taking toxin damage from the chem, possibly along with liver damage and the like; some OD effects are beneficial aside from that - one chem starts healing internal... bleeding? Damage? Can't remember, only once OD'd.

Finally, some time ago Bay's system for handling the Smoke effect was changed - it no longer is the same no matter if you put 1 or 100 units of the smoke mix, instead depending on proportion of Smoke:Others to effect the cloud's Size:Potency ratio. Teal deer, big clouds have less chems per tile.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21106 on: January 23, 2015, 11:23:23 am »
"normal tg" chem system is now goonchem, btw. well, there's huge drama about it but w/e
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21107 on: January 23, 2015, 11:23:47 am »
Internal chem mixing still a thing.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 11:58:50 am by Aseaheru »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21108 on: January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am »
Just tested, you can mix potassium and water inside yourself... with 0 damage at 5 to 5 units.
Also you can fart smoke and mix with pills.

What is Tungsten for? It is not used in anything... does it have any strong effect on its own?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 11:55:53 am by ThtblovesDF »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21109 on: January 23, 2015, 11:59:50 am »
Ooh, now I really want to start implanting people with chem implants, to inject a combo of healing drugs and smoke materials...
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21110 on: January 23, 2015, 12:01:01 pm »


ridiculous.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21111 on: January 23, 2015, 01:18:55 pm »
Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am
What is Tungsten for? It is not used in anything... does it have any strong effect on its own?
IIRC xenoarch uses it for prepping samples or something.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21112 on: January 23, 2015, 02:17:32 pm »
Quote from: IcyTea31 on January 23, 2015, 01:18:55 pm
Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am
What is Tungsten for? It is not used in anything... does it have any strong effect on its own?
IIRC xenoarch uses it for prepping samples or something.

Yep, it is - or was, I never play Xenoarch after seeing how tedious it was on Bay - a prerequisite for literally one single chem, used to obtain samples for Xenoarch analysis.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21113 on: January 23, 2015, 05:39:14 pm »
Quote from: scrdest on January 23, 2015, 02:17:32 pm
Quote from: IcyTea31 on January 23, 2015, 01:18:55 pm
Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am
What is Tungsten for? It is not used in anything... does it have any strong effect on its own?
IIRC xenoarch uses it for prepping samples or something.

Yep, it is - or was, I never play Xenoarch after seeing how tedious it was on Bay - a prerequisite for literally one single chem, used to obtain samples for Xenoarch analysis.
It's not that tedious if you don't do the bullshit chemistry and analysis and just extract everything from the earth the moment you get to it. You just gotta be good at math and know which materials, which it will tell you on-site, go with which fields.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21114 on: January 23, 2015, 06:27:32 pm »
Quote from: Slayerhero90 on January 23, 2015, 05:39:14 pm
Quote from: scrdest on January 23, 2015, 02:17:32 pm
Quote from: IcyTea31 on January 23, 2015, 01:18:55 pm
Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am
What is Tungsten for? It is not used in anything... does it have any strong effect on its own?
IIRC xenoarch uses it for prepping samples or something.

Yep, it is - or was, I never play Xenoarch after seeing how tedious it was on Bay - a prerequisite for literally one single chem, used to obtain samples for Xenoarch analysis.
It's not that tedious if you don't do the bullshit chemistry and analysis and just extract everything from the earth the moment you get to it. You just gotta be good at math and know which materials, which it will tell you on-site, go with which fields.

I actually meant the analysis being tedious - since excavation team was just a rush of every Xenoarch for himself for the suits and was full every single round. Mind you, that was just when it was introduced.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21115 on: January 23, 2015, 07:03:46 pm »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21116 on: January 23, 2015, 07:09:20 pm »
Quote from: scrdest on January 23, 2015, 06:27:32 pm
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Quote from: ThtblovesDF on January 23, 2015, 11:48:51 am
I actually meant the analysis being tedious - since excavation team was just a rush of every Xenoarch for himself for the suits and was full every single round. Mind you, that was just when it was introduced.
You actually can't do the analysis anymore, the machines are not in the outpost, and only one Xenoarch can excavate things, there's only one field generator.
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21117 on: January 23, 2015, 07:18:22 pm »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21118 on: January 23, 2015, 08:05:33 pm »
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Re: Space Station 13: Urist McStation
« Reply #21119 on: January 23, 2015, 08:45:00 pm »
Guitars and a lot more bug/map fixes.
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