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[DrPoo]

So. In some cultures the clitoris is removed on the female infant, the foreskin is cut off the male infant.
Some religions teach their believers to spread their religion and slay those who resists to convert. Some religions promise a paradise for those who kill the nonbelievers and are killed martyrs. I dont get it.

We all know the effects of raising children in closed christian sects. Out comes a bigotted, spoiled, illogically thinking fuck that believes that the world revolves around their book.

My mom was one of those. Im the result of her. I have been banned from alot of places and muted here, for bigotry. I was a brainwashed little minion of the church, now i am free.

There are obvious consequences from teaching a person to ignore facts in favor of ancient fiction. We have dumbshits in the politics trying to ban homosexuality and censor culture. England is infested by Islam gangs enforcing the sexist, homophobic shariah law. Dont even get me started with those Taliban fuckheads.

So, why is it so protected? If it was, say Pokemon teaching childrens that they should hate lesbians because they eat pokemons alive, or if Naruto taught kids that if they jump off tall buildings, Naruto would come flying and save them, we would have given those people hell. But because its a 4000 year old collection of books, its sacred and protected and you are an evil Stalin clone for wanting it banned.

I dont say religion should be banned, but rather that we ban acting on them and dedicating ourselves to them or jugding on them in situations where actual fact and reality is needed. Trekkies dont build monuments to Picard and wake everyone up in the morning by screaming prayers in Klingon and crusading against Star Wars fans. So why the fuck does religious people need to?

Why are homophobes and bigots allowed to exist? Why?

Why can it be that i got banned from a minecraft server for being transsexual? I didnt tell them, they tracked up that info. The owner said he was christian and that i was harmful to the younger users and offending his religion. They didnt advertise it as a christian server.

Just throwing this out here, im really confused and i just want to hear your guys opinions on it. I Dont want start a flamewar, just wanting to talk.

No anythingism intended. Sorry for any bad grammar, getting shoes thrown in your face can be rather disorienting. Not intending to insult anyone though the bad language might make it seem like that.

[misko27]

I can already see the flames in the distance.
 
Because the other option is not allowing bigots to exist, and people don't seem to like organized slaughter, even if they are all  @#!*% .

[miauw62]

The process of removing bigotism and sexism and homophobism out of society will be a long one, but hopefully it will go faster and faster.

[etgfrog]

I find the main post to be a bit of a flawed one.

Homophobism made sense because back in those days when the extra birth rate from keeping the population strait just enough that a town kept alive and growing faster then other towns. The biggest reason why laws aren't passing homosexuality being equal to a marriage is because there is less of a chance of there being children. Now that society is trying to push itself to being smarter, children being raised by responsible parents is more important. And like misko said, you cannot change society overnight, you also cannot directly change what goes on in other countries without attempting what the nazi germany did, which was take control of the world and make the entire world have their ideology.

[DrPoo]

I mean i respect people for worshipping their gods.

The purges under Stalins regime were awful too. And Nazi germany were actually protestants.
Its just. The old tedtament actually incites homicide on homosexuals.

Sure maybe not eating pig kept people from getting sick, making guys stick with girls and girls stick with guys would heighten the birthrate, and maybe it would make the peasants more inclined to obey the king. But its the 21st century and we are offloading Mars rovers with dropships like it was fuck Cortex Command.

[Xantalos]

I dunno, and I'll not talk here or I may get banhammered.
PTW.

[etgfrog]

While yes, it is the 21st century, it barely has been 100 years since all these problems have been widely exposed, societal change is usually on the generation timescale, it will most likely be 2 generations after internet generation that will see such acceptance as common.

[Loud Whispers]

Homophobism made sense because back in those days when the extra birth rate from keeping the population strait just enough that a town kept alive and growing faster then other towns.

Growing towns locally sourced their migrants from the countryside.


To answer OP, why do we drink poisons to have fun? Most religions' sole purposes aren't to be hateful, especially in the new age. The people causing harm to others are the fundamentalists; is it due to their religion? Possibly, but then all under that religion would act the same way. What is different is that there are those who hold onto outdated morals whilst the world moves on.

[Zrk2]

Because intolerance is still intolerance if one doesn't tolerate intolerance.

[DrPoo]

Because intolerance is still intolerance if one doesn't tolerate intolerance.

That makes no sense because the only way to make the world more tolerant is to educate people to be tolerant towards differences and intolerant against intolerance.

Homophobism made sense because back in those days when the extra birth rate from keeping the population strait just enough that a town kept alive and growing faster then other towns.

Growing towns locally sourced their migrants from the countryside.


To answer OP, why do we drink poisons to have fun? Most religions' sole purposes aren't to be hateful, especially in the new age. The people causing harm to others are the fundamentalists; is it due to their religion? Possibly, but then all under that religion would act the same way. What is different is that there are those who hold onto outdated morals whilst the world moves on.

Alcohol atleast dosent incite violence against homosexuals.

[Loud Whispers]

Alcohol atleast dosent incite violence against homosexuals.

Yeah but it incites violence against everyone

[FuzzyZergling]

Because intolerance is still intolerance if one doesn't tolerate intolerance.

That makes no sense because the only way to make the world more tolerant is to educate people to be tolerant towards differences and intolerant against intolerance.

But if you do that, aren't you just doing to them the exact same thing they're doing to you?

Neither your side or the other side is objectively right or wrong; for them the correct action is to exclude you from the group because they see you as incorrect, and for you the correct action is to exclude them from your group, because you see them as incorrect.

[Scoops Novel]

Pragmatically, there are too many to kill, and doing so would only result in martyrs and more down the line. Secondly, religion is usually symptomatic of bigger problems. The Taliban wouldn't be getting anywhere if there hadn't been resent for the west. Thirdly, in the west at least, religion is struggling, for obvious reasons. Let it continue dwindling as they become less and less relevant.

Lastly, your going to have to put with all of the above for a good while longer. People are living longer, and it will be a while before the generations which primarily make up the faithful in the west are definitively outnumbered, though i suspect it will escalate. It's influence, however, will likely take a bigger hit. I do not relish the backlash.

[DrPoo]

Alcohol atleast dosent incite violence against homosexuals.

Yeah but it incites violence against everyone

I statistically beat up less people as a drunk than when im sober.

Because intolerance is still intolerance if one doesn't tolerate intolerance.

That makes no sense because the only way to make the world more tolerant is to educate people to be tolerant towards differences and intolerant against intolerance.

But if you do that, aren't you just doing to them the exact same thing they're doing to you?

Neither your side or the other side is objectively right or wrong; for them the correct action is to exclude you from the group because they see you as incorrect, and for you the correct action is to exclude them from your group, because you see them as incorrect.

I dont want to keep them out of my group but rather keep them from brutally murdering and going on a political crusade against LGBTs.

Sometimes, thingd need to be forgotten to be remembered and preserved.

[Scoops Novel]

DrPoo, this is a fight we're currently winning. Slow progress, when necessary, is preferable to sweeping changes which are subsequently overturned and then some. Said progress also lightens the landing of such. I understand why you're saying this, however. I have similar sentiments as to general apathy for the many, difficult problems we're facing because we appear to be comfortable.