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[splinterz]

Ok, I'll go ahead and close the mantis bug. Thanks for letting me know. Do you know of another way to check animal size values?

   Keith

no i don't know another way to check, i guess with a dfhack script or lua to read a unit's body.size_info? at any rate, i think i've got it resolved now, however there may actually be a df bug with young creatures. i noticed that if the baby age was 0 and the child age was 1, it seemed that it may be rounding up to an age of 1 and using that body size. something like, at > 5 months, it's considered 1 year old and updates the body size to that of a child, even though it's still a baby.

as another example, i had an alpaca that was 8 months old, so it's size should have been around ~7000 until 1 year old, where it's size is then ~35000. however at 8 months it was already ~28000.

this discrepancy was part of the DT issue, but the other part was that the body size code was incomplete. it had been simply taking the caste's default adult size, and dividing by 2 for children, and 4 for babies. using that base size, it was then applying the appearance modifiers to adjust the size accordingly. however, this doesn't seem to take into account fat layers? once i realized i could read the current body size directly (at least that's what i think unit.body.size_info.size_cur is, i couldn't get an answer from the dfhack guys) i switched to simply reading that instead of calculating it.

I haven't looked at DT's code, but from what I've seen in scripts most add-ons calculate age in whole years ignoring the time of year (basically, current year - birth year), which can give very misleading results as DF itself respects age at a resolution of ticks.  This would be more visible in the current version because new forts don't always start on the first of the year.  (I've seen contradictory statements of how creatures' sizes change with age, either linearly or quantum leaps.  Whatever it is, DF will return that when reporting a body size.)

well that's what i assumed DF was doing as well.. until i saw the alpaca at 8 months with a year 1 body size (if the offset i referenced is correct..).

what do you mean by

Whatever it is, DF will return that when reporting a body size

[Dirst]

what do you mean by

Whatever it is, DF will return that when reporting a body size

If the offset is correct, it should be possible to monitor the body size of a creature at intervals over time.  DF knows what it's doing, so asking DF the current body size will follow the correct formula.  That will settle the question of whether it grows linearly in each life stage or just pops into a new size at the correct age.  But it's kind of irrelevant if you can just look up a creature's current size on the fly.

Even without DFHack, it's conceivable to butcher the same animal every couple months with savescumming.

[splinterz]

what do you mean by

Whatever it is, DF will return that when reporting a body size

If the offset is correct, it should be possible to monitor the body size of a creature at intervals over time.  DF knows what it's doing, so asking DF the current body size will follow the correct formula.  That will settle the question of whether it grows linearly in each life stage or just pops into a new size at the correct age.  But it's kind of irrelevant if you can just look up a creature's current size on the fly.

Even without DFHack, it's conceivable to butcher the same animal every couple months with savescumming.

ah yes ok. from what i could tell looking at specific animals and the body_size_info structure in dfhack, the base_size was very close, or exactly the caste's average size with body modifiers applied. the size_cur was usually larger (i don't remember if it was ever smaller) than the base size. so i believe that's the current size with fat/muscle the creature has gained, but again i'm not certain.

[tamshan]

40.12 layouts for windows/linux are available here for manual updating

hopefully i'll get around to another full release this weekend sometime.

Sorry for my noobness here, first time attempting to manually update Dwarf Therapist. I just add the graphics.ini for the version I need to etc\memory_layouts\windows and I am good to go, yes?

[int_ua]

Thanks.
Linux amd64 deb for 0.40.12: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9894
i386 http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9900
We still need someone for i386 (32bit) and, possibly, non-deb packaging. Here is the bash script I use (don't forget the mail):

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cd Dwarf-Therapist
git pull
qmake -qt=5
make
sudo checkinstall \
--pkgname="dwarf-therapist" \
--pkgversion="`date '+%Y-%m-%d'`-`git log --pretty=format:'%h' -n 1`" \
--pkgrelease=1 \
--nodoc \
--pkgsource="https://github.com/splintermind/Dwarf-Therapist" \
--maintainer="add@email"P.S. I'm aware that using checkinstall for distribution is discouraged, but it works and requires much less time setting up.

[PeridexisErrant]

40.12 layouts for windows/linux are available here for manual updating

hopefully i'll get around to another full release this weekend sometime.

Sorry for my noobness here, first time attempting to manually update Dwarf Therapist. I just add the graphics.ini for the version I need to etc\memory_layouts\windows and I am good to go, yes?

Yep.  Just make sure you save it as "all files" so it doesn't append '.txt' to the extension, which stops it working. 

[feelotraveller]

So I just lost all my custom gridviews.  Between sessions they stopped showing and they are gone from the DT menu.  Strangely my custom roles are all still present.

I cannot find the default_gridviews.dtg mentioned in the readme, where should I be looking?

The manual mentions a Dwarf_Therapist.ini in passing at the end, and I think I previously saw this when hunting through my AppData files for something else but no luck locating it presently.  A search of my entire system did not find it either.  Where would I expect to find it?

[Valosar]

40.12 layouts for windows/linux are available here for manual updating

hopefully i'll get around to another full release this weekend sometime.

Sorry for my noobness here, first time attempting to manually update Dwarf Therapist. I just add the graphics.ini for the version I need to etc\memory_layouts\windows and I am good to go, yes?

Yep.  Just make sure you save it as "all files" so it doesn't append '.txt' to the extension, which stops it working.

I've added the files to the folder as described above and dwarf therapist is still saying it does not recognize the version of dwarf fortress I'm running. Is there another file I need to edit to point to the new files? Sorry for the question and thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

[salithus]

So I just lost all my custom gridviews.  Between sessions they stopped showing and they are gone from the DT menu.  Strangely my custom roles are all still present.

I cannot find the default_gridviews.dtg mentioned in the readme, where should I be looking?

The manual mentions a Dwarf_Therapist.ini in passing at the end, and I think I previously saw this when hunting through my AppData files for something else but no luck locating it presently.  A search of my entire system did not find it either.  Where would I expect to find it?

Mine is in %APPDATA%\UDP Software

40.12 layouts for windows/linux are available here for manual updating

hopefully i'll get around to another full release this weekend sometime.

Sorry for my noobness here, first time attempting to manually update Dwarf Therapist. I just add the graphics.ini for the version I need to etc\memory_layouts\windows and I am good to go, yes?

Yep.  Just make sure you save it as "all files" so it doesn't append '.txt' to the extension, which stops it working.

I've added the files to the folder as described above and dwarf therapist is still saying it does not recognize the version of dwarf fortress I'm running. Is there another file I need to edit to point to the new files? Sorry for the question and thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

Just to be clear on what you did: in {DT}\etc\memory_layouts\windows you added a new file, v0.40.12_graphics.ini with the contents from either windows or linux?

[Valosar]

Yes sir, I used the files for windows and placed it in the following location C:\Dwarf Therapist 25.0\etc\memory_layouts\windows file name is v0.40.12_graphics.ini

The error states it doesn't know how to talk to this version of dwarf fortress and it lists the known versions only up to 40.10 so obviously I'm doing something wrong. I went ahead and added the file for version before as well v0.40.11_graphics.ini. Any clues?

[salithus]

Yes sir, I used the files for windows and placed it in the following location C:\Dwarf Therapist 25.0\etc\memory_layouts\windows file name is v0.40.12_graphics.ini

The error states it doesn't know how to talk to this version of dwarf fortress and it lists the known versions only up to 40.10 so obviously I'm doing something wrong. I went ahead and added the file for version before as well v0.40.11_graphics.ini. Any clues?

No idea - can you upload your v0.40.12_graphics.ini?

[Valosar]

I've not made any changes to the file, it should be the same as the one found on the dwarf therapist manual update website linked on the previous page. For that matter it isn't reporting knowing about 40.11 either. Are there any other steps I'm missing other than just plugging the files into the right folder?

[salithus]

I've not made any changes to the file, it should be the same as the one found on the dwarf therapist manual update website linked on the previous page. For that matter it isn't reporting knowing about 40.11 either. Are there any other steps I'm missing other than just plugging the files into the right folder?

No, that's all you have to do - that's why I'm wondering if the file you made has the right contents and was going to do a quick diff on it.

[Valosar]

I didn't make the file, I downloaded it. Is that maybe where I went wrong, did I not understand what it was asking me to do? : P  Not sure how to upload the file here don't see any attachment buttons.

[salithus]

I didn't make the file, I downloaded it. Is that maybe where I went wrong, did I not understand what it was asking me to do? : P  Not sure how to upload the file here don't see any attachment buttons.

Depends on what you mean by "I downloaded it" - if you didn't go down to the raw itself, it's possible you grabbed the HTML for the page instead of the file contents. Just open it up, copy and paste what's in there to pastebin.com (or just compare it to what I linked which is a direct link to the raw) - if they don't match, replace it with the contents of the raw. If they do match, we'll need someone who knows more about DT than I do.