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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #15345 on: March 17, 2015, 08:48:44 am »

Its a mindset born from good reasons and in a way has served Russia by generally preventing it from being strongarmed by outside states...

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall" is it not?  Isn't that what essentially brings Murrica together and also allows it to push around other states that do not agree...
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« Reply #15346 on: March 17, 2015, 09:38:30 am »

Its a mindset born from good reasons and in a way has served Russia by generally preventing it from being strongarmed by outside states...

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall" is it not?  Isn't that what essentially brings Murrica together and also allows it to push around other states that do not agree...
Yes, yes it is exactly that. The ultimate idea of defense. USA though had it better because of a more livable territory and less crazy conquerers invading its territory. That's why USA is still a super-power while Russia isn't.

I wonder, how many more states in the world have this idea deeply ingrained into their culture?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #15347 on: March 17, 2015, 09:39:56 am »

And now a message from our most observant news source :

Sky is falling. Solar eclipse could cause blackout.
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« Reply #15348 on: March 17, 2015, 09:41:58 am »

And now a message from our most observant news source :

Sky is falling. Solar eclipse could cause blackout.
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« Reply #15349 on: March 17, 2015, 09:45:18 am »

Yeah, that's kinda BS right there, since the eclipse won't be total for most of europe and will happen early in the morning there won't be much of a change. Besides, even if it was huge and catastrophic not a lot of power is produced via solar in europe.
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« Reply #15350 on: March 17, 2015, 09:46:46 am »

And now a message from our most observant news source :

Sky is falling. Solar eclipse could cause blackout.

This doesn't seem too serious. My town loses power for the whole day maybe 15% of the time the temperature exceeds 90 degrees. Two hours won't do any damage, even less because we know long in advance exactly when those two hours will be.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #15351 on: March 17, 2015, 09:54:39 am »

Then most Russians are dictators. Crazy, huh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

I dont even think you are arguing with me; fallacies just seem to be a way of life for you.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #15352 on: March 17, 2015, 09:57:59 am »

Then most Russians are dictators. Crazy, huh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

I dont even think you are arguing with me; fallacies just seem to be a way of life for you.
Well how else can you explain Russia being the biggest state on the planet which has refused the democracy, and most Russian rulers being dictators, huh?
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« Reply #15353 on: March 17, 2015, 10:10:33 am »

It should be noted that fossil power plants can't respond instantly. But then again, the grid operator should see this one coming.
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« Reply #15354 on: March 17, 2015, 10:12:07 am »

Its a mindset born from good reasons and in a way has served Russia by generally preventing it from being strongarmed by outside states...

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall" is it not?  Isn't that what essentially brings Murrica together and also allows it to push around other states that do not agree...
Yes, yes it is exactly that. The ultimate idea of defense. USA though had it better because of a more livable territory and less crazy conquerers invading its territory. That's why USA is still a super-power while Russia isn't.

You really can't compare them that way because very different histories. Also, the early colonial days weren't easy, and neither was settling on the frontier, so, we didn't exactly 'have it easy' all the time either. Though granted, we don't have anything close to the harshness of Siberia, Alaska comes close though.

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I wonder, how many more states in the world have this idea deeply ingrained into their culture?

Israel?

Poland? They've been shafted many times.

China has that 'defensive wall' mentality as well.

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« Reply #15355 on: March 17, 2015, 10:58:51 am »

Its a mindset born from good reasons and in a way has served Russia by generally preventing it from being strongarmed by outside states...

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall" is it not?  Isn't that what essentially brings Murrica together and also allows it to push around other states that do not agree...
Yes, yes it is exactly that. The ultimate idea of defense. USA though had it better because of a more livable territory and less crazy conquerers invading its territory. That's why USA is still a super-power while Russia isn't.

You really can't compare them that way because very different histories. Also, the early colonial days weren't easy, and neither was settling on the frontier, so, we didn't exactly 'have it easy' all the time either. Though granted, we don't have anything close to the harshness of Siberia, Alaska comes close though.
Alaska doesn't compromise 70% of your territory, though. And Native Americans didn't periodically form states lead by insane megalomaniacs bent on conquering your country. Let's check: Genghis Khan with Mongols (with half of Asia in tow) with subsequent raiding for XIII-end of XV centuries, Karl XII with Sweden (who was strong enough to make Poland ally with Russia. Poland!) in the XVIII, Napoleon with France (and half of Europe in tow) in XIX, Hitler with Germany (same deal) in XX... And in XVII century we have had our dynasty died out and almost got a Pole king on the throne!

Compared to that, USA had it on easy mode.
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« Reply #15356 on: March 17, 2015, 11:06:44 am »

Plus, the US didn't even own Alaska until recently, it was Russian originally.
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« Reply #15357 on: March 17, 2015, 11:11:46 am »

Its a mindset born from good reasons and in a way has served Russia by generally preventing it from being strongarmed by outside states...

"United We Stand, Divided We Fall" is it not?  Isn't that what essentially brings Murrica together and also allows it to push around other states that do not agree...
Yes, yes it is exactly that. The ultimate idea of defense. USA though had it better because of a more livable territory and less crazy conquerers invading its territory. That's why USA is still a super-power while Russia isn't.

You really can't compare them that way because very different histories. Also, the early colonial days weren't easy, and neither was settling on the frontier, so, we didn't exactly 'have it easy' all the time either. Though granted, we don't have anything close to the harshness of Siberia, Alaska comes close though.
Alaska doesn't compromise 70% of your territory, though. And Native Americans didn't periodically form states lead by insane megalomaniacs bent on conquering your country. Let's check: Genghis Khan with Mongols (with half of Asia in tow) with subsequent raiding for XIII-end of XV centuries, Karl XII with Sweden (who was strong enough to make Poland ally with Russia. Poland!) in the XVIII, Napoleon with France (and half of Europe in tow) in XIX, Hitler with Germany (same deal) in XX... And in XVII century we have had our dynasty died out and almost got a Pole king on the throne!

Compared to that, USA had it on easy mode.

I never said that Alaska comprised of 70% of the territory, just that the most comparable conditions to Siberia are over there. And yeah, as an entity, the US is very young compared to the lengthy histories of the Old World countries.

Plus, the US didn't even own Alaska until recently, it was Russian originally.

Imagine what the faces of Russians looked like when gold was found there after ownership was given over to the US, lol. Bet there was a lot of facepalming going around.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #15358 on: March 17, 2015, 11:18:49 am »

The article states that "In the summer, for example, 40 per cent of Germany’s energy comes from its solar farms" OMG, Germany will explode is it looses 40% of it's energy! 
Well not quite, at midday during peak power production 40% of Germany's energy is from solar, which is impressive, I'm astounded by that figure really, however in total only 7% of the country's energy is solar, if the grid can cope without those panels at night I'm sure it can cope for an hour during the eclipse, if not then some people will have to shut their air conditioners and computers off for a bit. Doomsday approaches.
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« Reply #15359 on: March 17, 2015, 11:23:30 am »

A solar eclipse? Oh no our precious daylight is being taken away from us. Clearly, this means it is TIME TO SAVE THE DAYLIGHT!
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