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[Phmcw]

Eurosceptiscism is not that similair for the moment here.

Anyway, Flanders can not loose Bruxelles, because otherwise the capital will likely end up in Antwerp. We can't let that happen.

It won't be that bad, the dockers will keep the mood lively!

[Sheb]

I've got a game with friends where each one of us has to find five good arguments for a position one would normally never defend. Last time we played, he had to find five good reasons to nuke Antwerp (his girlfriend lives there).

[Owlbread]

It can be argued that england is no more real than Belgium.
Just because the the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms were conquered by the great heathen army and became the danelaw.

The UK is an example of the "realm" idea I was getting at. I do believe England is a country/nation though, but it is the sum of its parts i.e all the counties together. Very much like Wales and Ireland, they did not have political unity but they were one nation. I see a future independent federation of England, or just England with county level devolution.

[Sergarr]

'Federation of England' sounds so much better than 'England' on its own.

I support this move, now.

How does "United Kingdom" sounds to you?

[miauw62]

And also the fact that Belgium hold the EU headquarters.

Which is incredibly ironic, given the current popularity of euroskepticism.

Eurosceptiscism is not that similair for the moment here.

Anyway, Flanders can not loose Bruxelles, because otherwise the capital will likely end up in Antwerp. We can't let that happen.

Antwerpen ist stad, en de rest is parkeerpluts!

[Sheb]

A prominent Human Right lawyer in Belarus was kicked out of the country for 'speeding'.

[Il Palazzo]

'Federation of England' sounds so much better than 'England' on its own.

I support this move, now.

How does "United Kingdom" sounds to you?

Not as good. Federation sounds much cooler.

'Federation of the British Isles' sounds pretty cool, too.

You're a fan of Star Trek, aren't you?

[Darvi]

'Federation of England' sounds so much better than 'England' on its own.

I support this move, now.

How does "United Kingdom" sounds to you?

Not as good. Federation sounds much cooler.

'Federation of the British Isles' sounds pretty cool, too.

You're a fan of Star Trek, aren't you?

That was my firt thought too.

[miljan]

Russia invades Sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFjX0cOh1dg&list=UUAvBcst08Tfo4VNtIaRPTNw

[wobbly]

I always saw Belgium as one of those false countries. Countries that don't actually exist,  they're just administrative leftovers from the olden days when several countries were ruled by one European ruler as administrative units. Switzerland is an example - it's bits and pieces of several countries stuck together.

I hope I'm not being rude here, but how many of the countries that you consider to be "real" are real countries. It seems to me that you think if a  country didn't exist 100, 200, 300 years ago then it's not a real country and that if a country did exist back then and no longer does that we should break the country in it's place and recreate the real country. Again, not trying to be rude or start an argument, just an observation.

Edit: The numbers above aren't meant to be real numbers, hopefully you get the gist of what I'm saying anyways.

[LordSlowpoke]

i'd like to take this moment to point out that switzerland is about as much of a country as countries get

point out one way in which the constituent parts of it are not allowed self determination or not treated as equals in regards to its other parts

or that there even is a dominant part (suppose you could say the german is, but it's not a de jure thing)

[Sheb]

Yeah, I'm surprised you want to split Switzerland, it should be your dream country: a country unified by a strong national identity superseding ethnic ties, unified through the will of its people rather than war and coercion, with strong democratic traditions and decentralization.

BTW, there was a lot of fuss about a year ago when Switzerland voted those immigration restricitions in a referendum, that could endanger all kind of EU treaties. Someone knows what happened in the end?

[10ebbor10]

The EU has implemented some measures, and the swiss governement has another 2 years to renegiotiate the treaties. The EU is not intending to cooperate though.

http://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/formal-cooling-eu-swiss-relations-308529

[Reelya]

The "not a real country" debate could encompass a whole lot of countries. Germany only came together in 1871, Italy only settled on Rome as the capital the same year, and some territories didn't join with Italy until after WWI.

Why are those real countries and not Belgium and Switzerland ? The subjective criteria sounds like it's about having a "national language" that's not shared by other nations, since Belgium and Switzerland have a mix of languages in common with neighboring countries. But such a "rule" needs to be objectively applied. Austria speaks German, so they're fake too.

Also, what about the USA? They speak imported languages too. The language rule would exclude pretty much all colonial countries from being "real" as well - so by by "countries" in the Americas / New World. You're all fake ones.

[Helgoland]

Austria speaks German, so they're fake too.

Großdeutschland stronk!