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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8475 on: July 31, 2014, 04:13:08 am »

I like Scots Wae Hea, it seems appropiate, I'm a fan of the french anthem though which is very bloody and nationalistic.
I'd like to claim Scottish ancestry but there's also English in my father and mothers side and Irish too, but I'm rather well assimilated into Australian/British identity so I can't really claim any singular heritage.
My surname is scottish though.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8476 on: July 31, 2014, 05:34:54 am »

I propose this as the new Scottish national anthem.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8477 on: July 31, 2014, 05:41:47 am »

Scots Wha Hae here, too.
The choice really depends on how you see your country, and its mythos of origin: Modern France was forged in the blood of the revolution, and that's still a big part of the country's self-image, so they have the Marseillaise. England with its tradition of the stiff upper lip and carrying on through (and, in no small part, their role in WWII, at least in modern times) has God Save The Queen. (Technically the UK, but I shouldn't have to explain to Owl why I said England.) The US still draw on their pioneer and revolutionary days; unlimited possibilities, which had to be seized and defended. And so their whole anthem is a question: Is our flag still there? Because the mythos of the US doesn't include a guarantee for the US's survival, as opposed to that of many 'ethnic' nations in Europe. Japan's anthem is friggin' awesome, but I know too little about the country to say much about it. Germany... Germany is the really interesting case. Our mythos of origin is - naturally - WWII and the Holocaust; we're not the Reich any more, we're the BRD. But we still have seen the destructive potential that sleeps within us; we know what horrors we have to keep in check. And so our anthem doesn't talk about military prowess, or the defeat of a foe, or even how we're very good at producing wine (we're not, and that's what the Nazis did). It's wholly focused on the people living together, and the prosperity brought about by that. Pretty much my favourite anthem, really. We even put the first line on our soldiers' belts apparently, so they'll know what they're fighting for: Unity, and rule of law*, and freedom. And so they'll know what they're not fighting for, I guess.

What's your Scotland, Owlbread?
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8478 on: July 31, 2014, 06:59:09 am »

Ooh, free anthem analysis.

What do you have to say about this one?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braban%C3%A7onne
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8479 on: July 31, 2014, 07:22:27 am »

Heh. Our anthem is about how we're totally the legit side in the eighty years war and that the Spanish king sucked at being a king.

Totally relevant, I swear.
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« Reply #8480 on: July 31, 2014, 07:35:02 am »

Our national anthem (Finland) is just a lot of praising on how nice our nature is and how we like to praise it. Kinda meta, really.

I prefer the Finlandia Hymn, which is all about a new dawn of independence and has a lot of lovely light and defiance motifs. Makes me all tingly and patriotic inside.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8481 on: July 31, 2014, 07:35:46 am »

I never realized how jingoistic the Canadian anthem is.

"Home and native land," so sayeth the colonial nation. "True patriot love, in all thy sons command."

"Stand on guard for thee."

It's almost... American in it's jingo.
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« Reply #8482 on: July 31, 2014, 08:38:56 am »

« Last Edit: July 31, 2014, 08:44:50 am by Owlbread »
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« Reply #8483 on: July 31, 2014, 08:57:35 am »

I think it's the mostly "home and native land" that's sticking in my craw. We're an immigrant, multicultural nation, and damn proud of it. Not only is that single line erasing that vein of open-armed pride, but it's also erasing the... you know, *true* natives. "You're technically native, but we're the REAL natives here in Canada! We made it what it IS!" kind of bullshit. Reminds me of the "Bring civilization to the savages" bull.

S'why the "making citizenship a privilege not a right" sticks in my craw, too. Making it harder to become a Canadian citizen, and making it possible to lose that citizenship, goes against the core of Canada.
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« Reply #8484 on: July 31, 2014, 09:06:39 am »

I think it's the mostly "home and native land" that's sticking in my craw. We're an immigrant, multicultural nation, and damn proud of it. Not only is that single line erasing that vein of open-armed pride, but it's also erasing the... you know, *true* natives. "You're technically native, but we're the REAL natives here in Canada! We made it what it IS!" kind of bullshit. Reminds me of the "Bring civilization to the savages" bull.

S'why the "making citizenship a privilege not a right" sticks in my craw, too. Making it harder to become a Canadian citizen, and making it possible to lose that citizenship, goes against the core of Canada.

Yes, I agree with you completely there. I'm not such a fan of the "native land" bit.
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« Reply #8485 on: July 31, 2014, 09:44:09 am »

"Scots Wha Hae" is a fairly aggressive way to go. It's heavy on the 'unite to stand against the Other' and not overmuch personal introspection. If most Scots prefer it then I suppose it fits, though personally I like "Is There For Honest Poverty" and "Freedom Come All Ye" rather more as songs.

And really, if you're going with national-identity-via-war and struggles against the English, then you should use Donald McGillavry instead. It's bouncier and has a nice Jacobite flavor to it =P
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #8486 on: July 31, 2014, 09:45:49 am »

Pff.

Damn Jacobites :P

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« Reply #8487 on: July 31, 2014, 10:09:06 am »

@Owlbread: I usually listen to this one university choir version from Spotify. If that doesn't work, this appears to be the same (I'm not a fan of the video background, but oh well).

I figured you'd like it, at least words-wise. Lots of talk about breaking free of the night of oppression and slavery; your problem isn't the Russian Empire, but I'm sure you can appreciate it.
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« Reply #8488 on: July 31, 2014, 10:14:19 am »

Ukrainian anthem fits the current situation in Ukraine sooooo well. Real pre-2003 lyrics, not a castrated official version

Unfortunately I know no good rhymed English translation of lyrics and my Google skills failed to find one I consider to be not bad

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« Reply #8489 on: July 31, 2014, 10:32:14 am »

Nice anthem.
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