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Author Topic: Sheb's European Megathread: Remove Feta!  (Read 1748136 times)

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6930 on: June 23, 2014, 08:57:59 pm »

Aaaaaand now your avatar looks ten degrees worse.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6931 on: June 23, 2014, 09:18:34 pm »

So, Owlbread.

You gonna commit sudoku when you lose the referendum?

I don't think it's a matter of "when", it's a matter of "if". We will address this if the situation arises.
Woops, meant to say/type "if".
I don't care either way though, as long as the referendum is fair.
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« Reply #6932 on: June 23, 2014, 11:37:53 pm »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6933 on: June 24, 2014, 05:52:56 am »

According to UNIAN and websites of pro-Russian forces, yesterday in Donetsk, representatives of the Ukrainian government and People's Republics of Donetsk and Luhansk have met for the first time, agreeing on a temporary cease-fire (until the 27th of June) and continuation of further negotiations.

Also, according to RIA Novosti, BBC and RT, Russian President Vladimir Putin have asked the upper house of the Russian parliament to revoke the right to use Russian military force in Ukraine, which was given to him by the same upper house on the 1st of March.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6934 on: June 24, 2014, 09:25:20 am »

Yeah, saw that on google news. Looks like things are starting to finally calm down.
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« Reply #6935 on: June 24, 2014, 11:06:06 am »

Yeah, and minimum 11 killed Ukrainian soldiers today  don't count..... We have a damned one-sided ceasefire to calm things down

Any negotiations with that scum is unacceptable. Week is way to long, 24 hours for their surrender would be more than  enough. Negotiations like that are same as if USA started negotiating with Al-Qaeda or Israel with HAMAS
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6936 on: June 24, 2014, 11:35:43 am »

Freedom is not always, as your sig states, on the tip of a sword. Sometimes it is by the tip of the pen.
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« Reply #6937 on: June 24, 2014, 11:51:53 am »

Putin removing that right is a good sign - it shows that he doesn't intend to occupy Eastern Ukraine. I belive that the war, if not won, is at least coming to an acceptable end.

And everybody's forgotten about Crimea, so I guess Putin did sort of win...
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6938 on: June 24, 2014, 11:53:19 am »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6939 on: June 24, 2014, 11:55:09 am »

What a shocker!
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6940 on: June 24, 2014, 12:15:16 pm »

Putin removing that right is a good sign - it shows that he doesn't intend to occupy Eastern Ukraine. I belive that the war, if not won, is at least coming to an acceptable end.
All that Putin has to do to move troops in is to recognize new independent nation(s) and move troops in because they asked to. I see no changes here

Besides his troops are IN Ukraine right now, shooting down helicopters, sniping officers, bringing tanks and heavy artillery from Russia, kidnapping and murdering  civilians, blowing up Ukrainian infrastructure...

Why should he  move troops in Ukraine when the current strategy works and Ukraine plays along by calling his soldiers terrorists and wastes time on "negotiations" with his puppets?

That negotiations are either huge mistake that will result in hundreds if not thousands dead or plain treason
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6941 on: June 24, 2014, 12:25:45 pm »

kidnapping and murdering  civilians
I'm pretty sure that if that was the case, all western media would be filled with examples of said behaviour. It is not. Therefore, this is probably not the case.
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« Reply #6942 on: June 24, 2014, 12:36:56 pm »

Do you want to say that there are Western journalists in all that small cities not under Ukrainian control? Nope, only Russian media are allowed here.

Besides it is not the scale that will be interesting for journalists, few cases per day? Who cares? And that can be blamed on local crime

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #6943 on: June 24, 2014, 12:40:04 pm »

Do you want to say that there are Western journalists in all that small cities not under Ukrainian control? Nope, only Russian media are allowed here.

Besides it is not the scale that will be interesting for journalists, few cases per day? Who cares? And that can be blamed on local crime
"few cases of kidnapping and murdering civilians per day by pro-russian forces" and "western media would not care" do not compute together.

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« Reply #6944 on: June 24, 2014, 12:44:58 pm »

Journalist need something "bright" to right about. One time death of large number of people is more "interesting" than same number if people died over longer period

If you mean that Western Governments are interested to show bad behavior of Russians.... I think they don't. Because they promised more sanctions but they don't want to impose real sanctions

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