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LordSlowpoke

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5265 on: May 13, 2014, 12:25:19 am »

I reckon the good news is that there's a Belgian government.

Although it can't be that severe if they took the leisure to get hacked that many times.
Not for long anyway. The elections are in a month or something, and seem like they might be headed towards another blockade.

can i just walk into parliament during a blockade and take over belgium
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5266 on: May 13, 2014, 12:35:29 am »

You can try.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5267 on: May 13, 2014, 03:24:44 am »

Anyway, unrelated news. The Belgian government managed to get hacked again. They suspect Russia this time, but have no proof.

Probably only made this claim through elimination of suspects. It can't have been the British (they hacked us a bit before that), can't have been the Americans (they hacked us even earlier), might be the Chinese, but from what I see about the quality of our cybersecurity, it appears we outsourced it to them.
Have you tried turning your government off and on again?

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5269 on: May 13, 2014, 07:03:18 am »

Spoiler: Meanwhile in Ukraine (click to show/hide)
No one likes getting shelled, except Jacko, but that's a weird one. Any chance this artillery was acquired from the salt mine?

smjjames

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5270 on: May 13, 2014, 08:15:31 am »

Lol on the Hungarian PM pulling the same thing that Russia did, without the invasion. Russia really let loose a can of worms here, or would Pandora's box be a better metaphor?

Though it all seems to go back to the treaty of Trianon and is kind of separate from what Russia did. The article does state that dual citizenship would be good and Hungary isn't trying to annex back it's old territories.
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« Reply #5271 on: May 13, 2014, 09:52:00 am »

Lol on the Hungarian PM pulling the same thing that Russia did, without the invasion. Russia really let loose a can of worms here, or would Pandora's box be a better metaphor?

Though it all seems to go back to the treaty of Trianon and is kind of separate from what Russia did. The article does state that dual citizenship would be good and Hungary isn't trying to annex back it's old territories.
Yeah, it isn't like Hungary would pull a Russia on it's neighbours. There has been a rise of nationalistic rhetoric in Hungary in the last few years, some of it is understandable (if you look at the treaty of Trianon), other stuff is more worrying (antisemitism, rise of the Jobbik party, some constitutional changes restricting freedom of the press etc). Got nothing to do with the way Russia has been acting recently though.
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« Reply #5272 on: May 13, 2014, 09:57:54 am »

Why oh why must that part of Europe be again and again a source of conflict and pressure?

The thing really is that while Russia can get away with certain things, a country like Hungary would not if it would choose to act.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5273 on: May 13, 2014, 10:00:08 am »

EU court backs 'right to be forgotten'

More specifically, Google and other search engines are no obligated to delete links relating to those people upon those people's request.

Edit: I don't think I actually support this. I mean, the info is still out there, it just makes it harder to find.
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« Reply #5274 on: May 13, 2014, 10:03:32 am »

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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5275 on: May 13, 2014, 11:48:37 am »

EU court backs 'right to be forgotten'

More specifically, Google and other search engines are no obligated to delete links relating to those people upon those people's request.

Edit: I don't think I actually support this. I mean, the info is still out there, it just makes it harder to find.
Yeah, I'm definitely against this. Big data doesn't need to die, it just needs to be freely available to everybody.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5276 on: May 13, 2014, 11:59:37 am »

Yeah I heard about that on BBC earlier today and my initial reaction was NOPE.

I can fully imagine Donald Rumsfeld wanting Internet searches to "forget" those pictures of him smiling and shaking hands with Saddam Hussein back in the 80's.
Or for some public office seeker to want some vitriolic, extremist rant from his/her earlier days buried.

And then, of course, there's Rick "Please Don't Google Me" Santorum.


Like most laws regarding information, this one would just wind up abused by the rich and powerful and difficult to access for the masses.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5277 on: May 13, 2014, 12:02:26 pm »

Yup, it doesn't hinder big data in the least, (Remember, it only affects search engines, the actual pages still exist) who have their own crawlers and databases.

It only affects the common folk who rely on search engines to find stuff.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5278 on: May 13, 2014, 12:48:14 pm »

Spoiler: Meanwhile in Ukraine (click to show/hide)
No one likes getting shelled, except Jacko, but that's a weird one. Any chance this artillery was acquired from the salt mine?
Probably not. The salt mine converted into a weapon stockpile only contained WW2-era small arms, plus (IIRC) there were reports back in mid-April claiming that Ukrainian security forces booby-trapped the mine to prevent it from falling into the hands of pro-Russian forces. However, Igor Strelkov, the commander of pro-Russian forces in Slavyansk claimed that some of his troopers are armed with PTRS-41 anti-tank rifles, used by Red Army soldiers during the Great Patriotic War. Some other pro-Russian militiamen were spotted being armed with PPSh-41 submachine guns, also dating to WW2, meaning that pro-Russian forces probably did actually break into the mines containing WW2 small arms and took some for themselves (or someone provided it to them).
Lots of WW2 weaponry was conserved by the Soviet Union after the war - should the Soviet Army lose their modern armament due to NATO nuclear bombardment, they were to reopen numerous hidden stockpiles of old WW2 weapons and ammunition and continue fighting. Plus, it was probably intended to be used by partisans on territories occupied by the enemy.

In other news, Russian Deputy PM Dmitri Rogozin announced that 11 American GPS ground stations operating on Russian territory (GPS ground stations were put there according to a treaty signed in 1993) will be forced to cease operations on the 1st of June and all remaining stations will be forced to cease operations on the 1st of September, unless America agrees to Russia's proposal from last year to place 8 GLONASS ground stations on American soil. The American government originally rejected it, after accusations raised by American intelligence agencies that Russia is intending to use them to direct Russian missiles at American targets. Russia has accused America of doing the same with their GPS ground stations.
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Re: Sheb's European Politics Megathread
« Reply #5279 on: May 13, 2014, 01:47:44 pm »

Aren't those GPS stations also used by civilians?

It would be great if both countries dropped the west vs east attitude. Didn't the US and Soviets have monitors at each others facilities as some sort of agreement?
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