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Total Members Voted: 107

[Amuys]

Anonymous is just an untrademarked yet scary sounding name.

[Descan]

Anonymous is like calling yourself a Christian or Atheist :v

There's no central leadership to target and get rid of. (And if you say "The Pope", well they'd just elect a new one. Or if you got rid of the entire Catholic structure, the laypeople wouldn't just... stop believing. They'd find a different way to express it, whether turning Protestant or Anglican or autonomous churches that still consider themselves Catholic or what.) It's an ideology, not an organization. And sometimes it's just a convenient label. But you can't really get rid of it. It can't really die, not until everyone with any ability stops believing in it. That is, not until anyone with any modicum of knowledge of computer networks and psychology and information gathering stops using it in any activities outside of the workplace.

And even then, even if the Anonymous idea/name goes away, the activities will still go on, either under a different name or just an undifferentiated mass.

[smirk]

Situation continues to deteriorate. Two reporters (one HuffPo, one WaPo) were arrested at the McDonalds they were working from and later released without charge or paperwork. St. Louis Alderman (council member) Antonio French has been arrested by the Ferguson PD, for some goddamn reason. Police are using tear gas and rubber bullets on demonstrators, with what appears to be little or no provocation. A state Senator was tear-gassed while participating in a nonviolent protest. No-fly zone is still in effect, and live feeds from the area are being lost as police actively go after people with cameras and recording devices.

There's a Reddit page that's doing a pretty good job of collecting various social media reporting in one spot. It's... fuckin'... shit be fucked. Fuck this shit.

[alway]

Certainly new stuff on the Ferguson stuff.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-ferguson-washington-post-reporter-wesley-lowery-gives-account-of-his-arrest/2014/08/13/0fe25c0e-2359-11e4-86ca-6f03cbd15c1a_story.html
Journalists arrested; apparently the ward alderman was as well, who had been covering events: https://twitter.com/AntonioFrench

Tear gas also fired at some reporters about to record: http://www.vox.com/2014/8/13/6001193/al-jazeera-journalists-teargassed-by-security-forces-in-ferguson

Local news there (same ones who taped the above link, got teargassed themselves a bit):
http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-fourth-night-tear-gas/14037883/
More coverage:
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930

Edit: aw ninjas; ah well, there is some non-duplicate info there.

[smirk]

Oh yeah, I forgot the one about Al-Jazeera journalists being teargassed. That also happened. There's just so much to choose from!

[alway]

Oh yeah, and another thing; they're using LRADs, as you can hear in some of the videos.

[smirk]

And in the middle of it all, the local Chief of Police apparently wants to become a comedian: https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/499763618146050049/photo/1

[Baffler]

Jesus fuck. What is it we've come to? ^{overthrow gov't now?}

[alway]

And after the news crew was fired upon?
https://twitter.com/CassFM/status/499800133174063104/photo/1

[SalmonGod]

I have to admit... I wasn't expecting this...

I expected harsh, overbearing police presence overseeing a temporary return to calm until clumsy handling of legal proceedings re-ignited collective anger.

I didn't expect the police to keep the fires burning pretty much all by themselves.

[smirk]

They sure as hell overestimated their ability to enforce a media blackout. Social media creates too many leaks to plug.

I'm not even sure anyone is really in charge of the police down there anymore - according to the story about the two reporters being arrested, when the police chief was informed his first response was "Oh, god". If the local paramilitary is no longer a rational actor, things will get a helluva lot worse before they get better.

...Oh, look. A St. Louis County Police Tactical Operations unit. I'm sure they'll help.

Edit: It looks to be at the site of the protest at the FPD building. There's a peaceful demonstration going on there for the release of Antonio French. Let's see if they can tear-gas it up a notch!

[alway]

So, protestors demand the release of the alderman; seeing reports that riot police just pulled up with APCs.
https://twitter.com/TefPoe/status/499814283644256256
https://twitter.com/yg_brae/status/499817116514910208

Also seeing posts purporting to show aftermath of rubber bullets being used.
And no small amount of claims that twitter/facebook are involved in media blackouts of ferguson hashtags? That one seems dubious to me though.

[smirk]

Apparently a "non-peaceful protest" is defined as one that refuses to disperse on being threatened by armed police tactical units. I suppose a "violent protest" would be one that refuses to roll over and play dead upon command.

Edit: This journalist's twitter is an excellent source for the protest outside the FPD. She's braver than most. https://twitter.com/Yamiche

[Strife26]

Any cop wearing a molle vest and strike plates is seriously seriously fucked up.

God help us but the warrior cop mentality will be worse in the future.

[Duuvian]

Police should be required to wear a suitably effective and small camera, possibly on a hat. It seems useful in that it might prevent a riot. After all they've gotten all those homeland security dollars for 'useful' things like armored personnel carriers for a village with a population of 50 people.

Apparently a "non-peaceful protest" is defined as one that refuses to disperse on being threatened by armed police tactical units.

I guess that makes MLK a non-peaceful protestor in today's day and age. Is this the official stance of police in Ferguson or your own conclusion? If that is ever the official opinion of law enforcement either locally or nationally, how unfortunate for us all that the wrong people were put in positions of sufficient power to make such decisions. Surely looting can be distinguished from protest and the reporters that cover it.