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[Mkok]

That would just make mines deplete even faster...

[Micro102]

? If you are simply waiting around for more ore to arrive, then that's exactly what you need, faster mining. Do you have high tier productivity modules on all the mines?

And this I know is krastorio 2, but I had the option to enrich ore, making the processing of ore more efficient at the cost of my sanity in rebuilding everything.

[n9103]

He said he's running out too fast.
Productivity modules are indeed the answer to making more from less.

[Nirur Torir]

Before I boosted productivity I was genuinely having issues with producing enough iron to clear out biters to expand to the next ore patch before my current patches run out. Maybe I am just too used to BA infinite ores, as I have never really played any factorio outside of BA before, just a bit of IR back in the day...

What's your military strategy look like? It sounds to me like you're using a lot of bullets, to defend against the large swarms trying to end the massive pollution caused by your core miners. I don't like bullets, they end up very expensive against the bigger bugs.

My strategy is usually to clear out a big area up to easy choke points once I get flamethrowers and enough exoskeletons to kite with, before the giant yellow bugs evolve. A quick burst of fire is wonderfully efficient and powerful. A few rockets to kill a nest before running works too. Then I turtle up with flamethrower and laser turrets, and try to go easy on pollution with efficiency modules until I can get out artillery and landmines.
(This worked fine for regular Space Exploration, but I haven't started a Space/Kras run yet.)

[Mkok]

Exactly, and with productivity modules and research in SE (vanilla) even something like 50% productivity is high (especially before leaving nauvis). For military I use laser turrets laced with ammo turrets using modded almost free copper bullets (1 copper plate per 1000 magazines), but the sheer cost of laser turrets is sooo huge in iron in SE and you need so damn many of them (compared to BA). maybe using flame turrets would work better, I did have plenty of oil for them. For clearing nests I was using flame tanks for small to medium nests, worked fine, just a bit too tedious. For larger nests flame tanks are too weak so I had to make a small army of laser tanks. It was a huge pain in the ass clearing even that one single nest right next to a big iron ore deposit. THE ONLY iron ore deposit outside my base I have not yet claimed as far as I had vision...

I have only SE, so best recipe there is to procces ori is to mix it with vulcanite and it gives I think 8 plates per 5 or 6 ore?? So maybe Krastorio would have made this better if it has better efficiency. I do put productivity modules wherever possible. Then again, I am probably just way too used to BA infinite ores where even a single deposit is enough to run a large base forever with no problems...

[Micro102]

He said he's running out too fast.
Productivity modules are indeed the answer to making more from less.

Ah I see, I was remembering an older comment.

[The_Explorer]

Hi.

Its factorio...

but

as a

city builder

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/tycoon

Also may this old ancient thread be alive again

tbh last time I played was when the thread was last posted in...decades ago

[Akura]

I've wanted a mod like that.

[n9103]

Played that one a bit. I'd call it more TTD than SimCity. Glad to see it's still getting updates.

[The_Explorer]

Played that one a bit. I'd call it more TTD than SimCity. Glad to see it's still getting updates.

I suppose. I kinda consider TTD a type of city builder, but not like sim city. But yeah more like that.

In a few weeks its getting a huge update apparently (the tycoon mod) where you can place cities anywhere and a ton more fleshed out stuff.

[AlStar]

Space Expansion is coming out today - anyone else hyped? I'm planning on picking it up once I get home from work.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/645390/Factorio_Space_Age/

[Il Palazzo]

I'm sort of looking forward to it. But I'm not sure I'll find the fortitude to build a base again. And then again in space, and again on other planets.
I think I'll wait to see what folks say about the new game flow. So, you know, do post a review when you're ready.

also, oof, the price is a bit steep for a dlc.

[Aoi]

Got it first thing in the morning... except now I'm too drunk to actually start, so back to troubleshooting my Pyanodon's factory.

I like (most) of what was covered in the FFFs though, so that's a win!

Spoiler: "Running commentary... last updated: 10/28/2024 2055 PDT (Short version: I got to space?)" (click to show/hide)

Game start is about as mindnumbingly boring as usual. The trigger unlocks for science as a nice touch.

Make sure you check what the hell you're doing if you've been playing more complex mods lately... I gave myself a headache building coal lines to all my assemblers before realizing that it's not necessary. On the other hand, the cheap inserters need it...

Only 13 more techs to get to construction bots... 

Quality is really kind of awkward early on, and I suspect there'll be a review of it. Also does something kind of expected or unexpected, depending on your outlook, when you request mixed qualities. The best use for quality early on feels like finished products (as opposed to components), since they're immediately usable. Once you can recycle things, it feels a bit better.

You can absolutely beeline the space platform (and other planets), but it's kind of costly, so it might be worth putting off a tad. And it also took me far too long to discover you don't actually have to go to the platform to build things on it. Biters still are the pain you know and hatelove.

[LoSboccacc]

game second playtrough is massively improved with the mods that give you a personal roboport with 4 construction bots from the get go: https://mods.factorio.com/mod/BuilderBotStart (and others, depending how much you want to jump ahead in time)

[AlStar]

So I've just started to play around with quality. Even at the low end, it's pretty sweet to get bonus capacity... however, there's something I think I'm not getting. If I just put the modules on the final products, then I've only got like a 1% chance to get better-grade stuff; but if I module something further up the line - say copper wire - as soon as the machine outputs an improved product, it gets stuck in the machine, since my destination machines only want to accept normal-quality parts.

Does this mean that to fully utilize quality, I need to make all my machines feeding into belts to get split off by quality, then those quality parts routed to a factory specifically geared to that quality? That seems extremely space inefficient - I was hoping that I could just make everything quality, then, when I luck into a quality ingredient, that'd have increased rarity chances on everything down-line.