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[Xantalos]

And never try to take back what was yours? Never reclaim that which was stolen from you? Never punish the one who did so?
No offense, but that's a wussy god right there.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Of cause she would try to take it back in most situations, but why do you think that goddess that likes fire, after getting a boost in what she likes, would give it back? Especially  in exchange for nothing but peace? (that's capitulation)  Especially to a being she considers an evil monster?

Besides we don't know exact effects of the act...

[Xantalos]

Of cause she would try to take it back in most situations, but why do you think that goddess that likes fire, after getting a boost in what she likes, would give it back? Especially  in exchange for nothing but peace? (that's capitulation)  Especially to a being she considers an evil monster?

Besides we don't know exact effects of the act...

It's not necessarily capitulation, it's more like 'give me back my fire and I won't kill you.'
Because seriously, what Vanida did is like me eating her uterus because she raped me.

Also, edited my talky bit.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Sure.

Furthermore Vanida may and will claim that it was self defense and punishment of the attacker (It was, partially), the truth is that her main motive was - I like the fire, I enjoy the fire. I want the fire. I grab the fire.

She is a very impulsive goddess

Interested in some strange creatures in coral towers? Fuck them

Her sisters brutally killed? Kill the ones who allowed that (The whole thing with heroin-fire is just a byproduct, my answer to " what will fire filled with energy of goddess of lust do with fire resistant creatures?" question)

Fire flowing through her? Get it!

Dislike proposed set of rules? Cry and claim all the gods being evil.

[Xantalos]

I can understand that OOC. Although to be honest, you're stuck in the palace with 8 gods. You're eventually going to have to back down when the others wake up and start posting, assuming Sapt Golgo doesn't kill us all. I will get my fire back one way or the other.
Tomorrow, though.

[Ardas]

You know, I like Vanida whole lot more after this speech. She really comes across as passionate and caring for mortals. and for a mortal(for now) like Udil, thats big points in favour of redeeming gods as a whole.

[javierpwn]

You know, I just realized the irony of the creatures created in the image of the insane previous Overgod are the only untainted beings left on the planet.

Hoominz. Not tainted. If you're talking about nongodworshiping, some dwarves by a river don't worship anyone.

1% worship me....

[Xantalos]

You know, I like Vanida whole lot more after this speech. She really comes across as passionate and caring for mortals. and for a mortal(for now) like Udil, thats big points in favour of redeeming gods as a whole.

Two things going against the 'passionate and caring' thing here:
1: Squiddleraep. As ridicukous as that sounds, she *did* legitimately rape the Squiddles for about 3 months.
2: Massacring everyone in a city because they acted in self preservation.

Oh, and my favorite...
SHE INVENTED HEROIN FIRE AND STOLE HALF OF MY SOUL.

I share the blame for some of this, but I'm willing to put it aside if my fire is given back and my children are left alone. It's not going to affect the number of Acts that I get; just not only give me Earth and normal Acts.

[javierpwn]

But... But.... I'll suffer from withdrawal if I don't get my heroin fire....

_{And those humans too}

[Ukrainian Ranger]

I can't decide who is worse at diplomacy, Az-Sho or Vanida

Vanida: You are all evil and I'll not negotiate with you
Az-Sho: You'll do what I say and get no benefits, else I kill you

On other hand Vanida does understand some of Az-Sho recent reasoning. But she is not in the position to answer before answer  from Thaneos.  Quite intrigued in what direction will he choose.

Big problem of Az-Sho vs Vanida issue is that exact results of the acts are unknown...

Ardas
Vanida is not that nice, as Xantalos pointed out. Another gray morale god)
But if someone will ask her she regrets that she acted rushly and killed off citizens of Riat. But she never said that she doesn't care about some mortals more than about another, (females vs males, for example. )

[Ardas]

Eh, fair enough. Its still something new when compared with other gods and Udil knows little of what happened on other contintnts. BTW, you do want to make a good impression on Udil.

[IamanElfCollaborator]

The crow god just wants his siblings to stop fighting.

He's just sort of sick of it, with all the godslaying and the kidnapping.



And he also wants some of dat heroin fire now. :3

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Heh, Corvus is now viewed as Az-Sho's puppet by Vanida

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Can't blame her. But when you look at it from OOC.....yeah, Corvus has a good reason for it.


Also, it's less of an alliance and more of a business arrangement; he gets teachers, I get worshippers.

[Xantalos]

You make a good diplomat, Corvus.

Though seriously, Imma give Udil a prosthetic.