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[~Neri]

I've had an idea:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Note the ledge around the outside. We could rest the Bartering ram across the gap (or over a corner if it isn't long enough), and walk along it. DarkAl will either walk off of the edge (unlikely) or walk to the edge of the platform and stop. We then walk back along the ram, resulting in DarkAl moving down to the other edge of the platform, resulting in it standing at the bottom and us at the top. From there we can simply pick up the bartering ram and walk past to the exit.

Any thoughts?

But Dark Al presumably has a Dark Bartering Ram, and will do the same.

But that means...

Al: Exchange Bartering Rams with Dark Al. Come on. We all know that as cool as the Bartering Ram is, a Shadow Bartering Ram is clearly the next stage in our continued attempts to evolve the perfect weapon.

++++++++++1

Why not~

[Elephant Parade]

I've had an idea:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Note the ledge around the outside. We could rest the Bartering ram across the gap (or over a corner if it isn't long enough), and walk along it. DarkAl will either walk off of the edge (unlikely) or walk to the edge of the platform and stop. We then walk back along the ram, resulting in DarkAl moving down to the other edge of the platform, resulting in it standing at the bottom and us at the top. From there we can simply pick up the bartering ram and walk past to the exit.

Any thoughts?

But Dark Al presumably has a Dark Bartering Ram, and will do the same.

But that means...

Al: Exchange Bartering Rams with Dark Al. Come on. We all know that as cool as the Bartering Ram is, a Shadow Bartering Ram is clearly the next stage in our continued attempts to evolve the perfect weapon.

++++++++++1

Why not~

+1

Hold on. Wouldn't a Dark Bartering Ram repair walls and give a negotiation penalty?

[birdy51]

We can always trade it back if we have to!

[~Neri]

Break wall. Sell wall. Swap for Dark Battering Ram. Repair Wall. Swap for Normal Battering Ram. Repeat.

[hops]

Why don't we somehow kill Dark Al first so we can loot to our heart's content :U

[~Neri]

Because the AlxDarkAl ship must sail.

[Eotyrannus]

I've had an idea:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Note the ledge around the outside. We could rest the Bartering ram across the gap (or over a corner if it isn't long enough), and walk along it. DarkAl will either walk off of the edge (unlikely) or walk to the edge of the platform and stop. We then walk back along the ram, resulting in DarkAl moving down to the other edge of the platform, resulting in it standing at the bottom and us at the top. From there we can simply pick up the bartering ram and walk past to the exit.

Any thoughts?

But Dark Al presumably has a Dark Bartering Ram, and will do the same.

But that means...

Al: Exchange Bartering Rams with Dark Al. Come on. We all know that as cool as the Bartering Ram is, a Shadow Bartering Ram is clearly the next stage in our continued attempts to evolve the perfect weapon.

++++++++++1

Why not~

+1

Hold on. Wouldn't a Dark Bartering Ram repair walls and give a negotiation penalty?

This can either give us an awesome weapon or result in EPIC BARTERING RAM HI-FIVE

[fractalman]

I've had an idea:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Note the ledge around the outside. We could rest the Bartering ram across the gap (or over a corner if it isn't long enough), and walk along it. DarkAl will either walk off of the edge (unlikely) or walk to the edge of the platform and stop. We then walk back along the ram, resulting in DarkAl moving down to the other edge of the platform, resulting in it standing at the bottom and us at the top. From there we can simply pick up the bartering ram and walk past to the exit.

Any thoughts?

But Dark Al presumably has a Dark Bartering Ram, and will do the same.

But that means...

Al: Exchange Bartering Rams with Dark Al. Come on. We all know that as cool as the Bartering Ram is, a Shadow Bartering Ram is clearly the next stage in our continued attempts to evolve the perfect weapon.

++++++++++1

Why not~

+1




p.s. that AlxDarkAl shipping pic is HILARIOUS.

[BFEL]

Wow. Ok, so this thing is pretty awesome, can't believe I missed it all this time.

But I gotta say...you guys kinda suck at this.

Don't worry though.

I'M HERE NOW

So yeah, couple things.

1.Theorycrafting: The "Lord" is the devil from Cains story, pretty obvious what with the cherub/angel servants and all that.

2. If you want the ultimate weapon, use that epic scroll of combining from Goombess on either two second-shifted souls (would help if the soul owners are also perfectly shipped) or the second-shifted Astral Influx+Heartbreaker. Insane, yes. Awesome, also yes.

3. LEVEL CHERISH THE FUCK UP ALREADY. HER FUTURE PASSIVE GIVES REGENERATION TO THE WHOLE PARTY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

4. Next time you leave Ciro at the house, have her bloodcraft a nice ranged weapon for the active party member before taking off, that maxhp isn't doing her any good sitting on her ass.

5. Oh, and I vote Derm's eventual spirit form be of the class "Derm-atalogist"

[flame99]

2. If you want the ultimate weapon, use that epic scroll of combining from Goombess on either two second-shifted souls (would help if the soul owners are also perfectly shipped) or the second-shifted Astral Influx+Heartbreaker. Insane, yes. Awesome, also yes.

Most of this is very good advice. However, this one, to be blunt, is kinda fucking stupid.

We already know from FFS's statements on why Ciro started bleeding in the Hard Hats fight that altering the soul, which is embodied by the Soul Star, alters the body as well. Therefore, if we were to combine two soul stars, it's very likely we'd end up with some kind of horrid amalgamation of PCs, which I doubt would end well. While this could have *amazing* rewards, it's also amazingly risky, and ultimately, probably not worth a very good chance of horribly crippling or outright killing two of our party members.

[javierpwn]

1.Theorycrafting: The "Lord" is the devil from Cains story, pretty obvious what with the cherub/angel servants and all that.

B-but, what about the King? Ironically, we had basically figured out through MUCH plot, that the Lord is the Last Seraphim; the issue either comes with Oric not being the King, or FFS being sly and waiting for his opportune moment to shine. Or a plot twits absolutely nobody saw coming.

2. If you want the ultimate weapon, use that epic scroll of combining from Goombess on either two second-shifted souls (would help if the soul owners are also perfectly shipped) or the second-shifted Astral Influx+Heartbreaker. Insane, yes. Awesome, also yes.

But, as Flameboy said, this would likely create a horrible abomination of two PC's, as well as possible destroying of minds, memories, and personality.

4. Next time you leave Ciro at the house, have her bloodcraft a nice ranged weapon for the active party member before taking off, that maxhp isn't doing her any good sitting on her ass.

But then how would my Al suicide plan work if AL couldn't go alone without any assistance into the area I knew would be filled with powerful enemies?

[BFEL]

2. If you want the ultimate weapon, use that epic scroll of combining from Goombess on either two second-shifted souls (would help if the soul owners are also perfectly shipped) or the second-shifted Astral Influx+Heartbreaker. Insane, yes. Awesome, also yes.

Most of this is very good advice. However, this one, to be blunt, is kinda fucking stupid.

We already know from FFS's statements on why Ciro started bleeding in the Hard Hats fight that altering the soul, which is embodied by the Soul Star, alters the body as well. Therefore, if we were to combine two soul stars, it's very likely we'd end up with some kind of horrid amalgamation of PCs, which I doubt would end well. While this could have *amazing* rewards, it's also amazingly risky, and ultimately, probably not worth a very good chance of horribly crippling or outright killing two of our party members.

Then how about combining the Astral Influx and Heartbreaker. It would essentially be combining the ultimate manifestation of Ciro's soul with the ultimate manifestation of her body, and as FFS pointed out those are INTRINSICALLY linked already.
But before doing that I suggest abusing the "get free hp over maximum" trick to put her at something silly like 50 health, possibly letting her keep that amount when it happens.

And if and when Ciro dies/transforms/otherwise gets to choose a new class, I suggest Carnival Master. Because then we could take Shenanigans as a CLASS STAT.

[laularukyrumo]

I don't think we should fuse anything with the Influx, just because if we cock that up, we PERMANENTLY lose our one "get out of jail free" button. Finding out what happens when we die without the influx is a bad idea.

However, I highly doubt Al will agree to letting us fuse stuff with his weapon, as much as I'd like to (and partially because his first shift is GARBAGE at the moment) for the same reason he won't listen to the voices anymore.

Cherish, however.... She seems just ignorant enough to go along with this, or at least not offer any outright resistance. And as much as I outright love the little girl, I do have to say, she's probably the most expendable of our current soulstar-wielding party.

If we're going to do this, though, we have to make sure Al is nowhere near. I guarantee you he'll go utterly balistic if we tamper with his adopted daughter's soul. Even with her "consent."

Also ranged weapons use maxSP you FOOL now go back to warrens academy

[Fniff]

Cherish, however.... She seems just ignorant enough to go along with this, or at least not offer any outright resistance. And as much as I outright love the little girl, I do have to say, she's probably the most expendable of our current soulstar-wielding party.

I think I figured out why Al doesn't like us. Actually, I'm surprised he doesn't dislike us more. I hope he's deaf to anything that isn't in bold text!

[fractalman]

I think I figured out why Al doesn't like us. Actually, I'm surprised he doesn't dislike us more. I hope he's deaf to anything that isn't in bold text!

*snerk*


If our plan to trade weapons fails, slap ourself. If that fails, stab ourself. If that fails, sidle onto the ledge to make the shadow fall down into the pit.