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[GreatWyrmGold]

3.5 for 2: 1.75 dmg/SP
7 for 6: 1.67 dmg/SP
10 for 10: 1 dmg/SP
Way less efficient than the other modes. Having it cost 9 might have been better; less of a sudden drop in efficiency.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Yeah, but you need take the time investment into account also. Casting any one of those costs a round. The third tier does more damage in the same space of time.

[Harbingerjm]

Is it a tier or an optional effect?

[Blade Master Model 42]

Is it a tier or an optional effect?

I assume an optional choice. Having fire3 doesn't stop you from casting fire.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Yeah, but you need take the time investment into account also. Casting any one of those costs a round. The third tier does more damage in the same space of time.

Yes, but still. I'd prefer if the advancement was more...even.

[Harbingerjm]

Not what I meant. You don't cast Zap or Even More Zap, you cast ZAP!!!, which has the base effect Zap and the optional effects More Zap and Even More Zap.

[Blade Master Model 42]

Not what I meant. You don't cast Zap or Even More Zap, you cast ZAP!!!, which has the base effect Zap and the optional effects More Zap and Even More Zap.

...huh. I dunno.

[Tomcost]

I think that the diminishing returns are fine, taking into account that the less turns to kill something, the less turns it has to retaliate.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Maybe I'm just OCD, but having the two equal tiers decrease efficiency slightly then significantly isn't quite...right.

[Harbingerjm]

I'm basing this off the way the Clot Cutter worked, so I could be totally wrong, but it seems plausible at least.

Maybe I'm just OCD, but having the two equal tiers decrease efficiency slightly then significantly isn't quite...right.

But it might not work like that. If I'm right, More Zap adds 2d6 for 6SP (3SP per d6) and Even More Zap adds 3d6 for 10SP (3.3SP per D6). That seems fairly consistent.

[GreatWyrmGold]

3.5 for 2: 1.75 dmg/SP
7 for 6: 1.67 dmg/SP
10 for 10: 1 dmg/SP
Way less efficient than the other modes. Having it cost 9 might have been better; less of a sudden drop in efficiency.

First time: Lose around 5% of the efficiency.
Second time: Lose more like 30% of the efficiency.

[Tomcost]

Umm, I think that its not "adding", it's the total effect. You can choose to do 1, 2 or 3 d6 each time you cast it.

And the 10 sp cost is so that we don't abuse it. It doesn't matter if it is not efficient, it can one shoot each one of our party members (ignoring the fact that proxxy is inmune to elec damage)

[flabort]

Table time!

"Tier"	Dice	Cost	Efficiency	Total Dice	Total Cost	total efficiency
Zap	1d6 (3.5)	2	175%	1d6 (3.5)	2	175%
More Zap	2d6 (7)	6	117%	3d6 (10.5)	8	131%
Even More Zap	3d6 (10.5)	10	105%	4d6 (14)	12	117%
More + Even More	.	.	.	6d6 (21)	18	117%

[Tomcost]

If we can do those 6d6, then we need to get three more MSP points for Proxxy. Fast.

I still think that it is not the way it works.

[hops]

It troubles me that the third boss is already stronger than all the Siblings except Oric and the Voice already.

It also troubles me, realizing that so far we have bypassed two bosses already, and recruited them to boot. Our luck may run out.