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[Cerol Lenslens]

Spoiler: OVERSOUL! (click to show/hide)

The Oversoul is the Ultimate Plot Narrative Control device; possession of the OS allows the user to quite literally accomplish any action they wish. Like a normal Soul, it has the power to do the unimaginable; only without limits. So powerful it requires a prison to be constructed around it.
The power of the OS attracts many people to go into the Warrens, but they all meet the same fate.



The Warrens themselves are located around(Or on, depending if the Warrens is) the OS. This is because the King of Haria trapped Oric and his Siblings inside the Warrens, as their punishments against the King. He might have thought it would kill(or drain) them, like every other person who enter the dungeon; but instead it didn't for whatever unseen reason.
Oric and his Siblings work to keep the OS under control, and by doing so have access to it's immense database on every single soul it encounters.

(Scanner connecting to the OS Soul Information Database)
The OS is intricately connected to every single Soul inside the Warrens, and a connection to the OS usually means certain Soul Depravity.

(The OS connection to an activated Soul Star; which constantly become deactivated)
The OS is a dangerous threat to the Warrens, which are built on the foundation which keeps the OS trapped within it's prison.The Void itself is a tool used to seperate the dangers of the OS from the Warrens, via preventing escape and offering a safeguard for the Sub-DLs. The OS itself is sentient, and wishes to escape it's prison; but to do so, it must bind itself to a life, which it already has:

CIIIIIIIIRRRRROOOOOOO IIIII AAAAMMMMM FFFFRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

The OS wishes to use Ciro to escape it's prison, but to do that it must destroy Oric. And when the Power went out in the lower sections of the Warrens, the OS guardians attempted to destroy the "intruder"

The area looks around for you.

Even the Angels themselves might be some of the Original Guards of the OS, and wish to overthrow Oric because of this. Maybe even reviving Riltia using their powers over the OS.

Just my thoughts on the Oversoul, and how it has an underlying plot to anything and everything we see or do.

Spoiler: Sending out an... (click to show/hide)

So, the OverSoul is running on a giant computer? Would that make it an OS OS? 

[javierpwn]

Spoiler: OVERSOUL! (click to show/hide)

The Oversoul is the Ultimate Plot Narrative Control device; possession of the OS allows the user to quite literally accomplish any action they wish. Like a normal Soul, it has the power to do the unimaginable; only without limits. So powerful it requires a prison to be constructed around it.
The power of the OS attracts many people to go into the Warrens, but they all meet the same fate.



The Warrens themselves are located around(Or on, depending if the Warrens is) the OS. This is because the King of Haria trapped Oric and his Siblings inside the Warrens, as their punishments against the King. He might have thought it would kill(or drain) them, like every other person who enter the dungeon; but instead it didn't for whatever unseen reason.
Oric and his Siblings work to keep the OS under control, and by doing so have access to it's immense database on every single soul it encounters.

(Scanner connecting to the OS Soul Information Database)
The OS is intricately connected to every single Soul inside the Warrens, and a connection to the OS usually means certain Soul Depravity.

(The OS connection to an activated Soul Star; which constantly become deactivated)
The OS is a dangerous threat to the Warrens, which are built on the foundation which keeps the OS trapped within it's prison.The Void itself is a tool used to seperate the dangers of the OS from the Warrens, via preventing escape and offering a safeguard for the Sub-DLs. The OS itself is sentient, and wishes to escape it's prison; but to do so, it must bind itself to a life, which it already has:

CIIIIIIIIRRRRROOOOOOO IIIII AAAAMMMMM FFFFRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

The OS wishes to use Ciro to escape it's prison, but to do that it must destroy Oric. And when the Power went out in the lower sections of the Warrens, the OS guardians attempted to destroy the "intruder"

The area looks around for you.

Even the Angels themselves might be some of the Original Guards of the OS, and wish to overthrow Oric because of this. Maybe even reviving Riltia using their powers over the OS.

Just my thoughts on the Oversoul, and how it has an underlying plot to anything and everything we see or do.

Spoiler: Sending out an... (click to show/hide)

So, the OverSoul is running on a giant computer? Would that make it an OS OS? 

It has a computer attached to it at least.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Oricsoft Oversoul Operating System
 The OS OS OS

[Mego]

Spoiler: OVERSOUL! (click to show/hide)

The Oversoul is the Ultimate Plot Narrative Control device; possession of the OS allows the user to quite literally accomplish any action they wish. Like a normal Soul, it has the power to do the unimaginable; only without limits. So powerful it requires a prison to be constructed around it.
The power of the OS attracts many people to go into the Warrens, but they all meet the same fate.



The Warrens themselves are located around(Or on, depending if the Warrens is) the OS. This is because the King of Haria trapped Oric and his Siblings inside the Warrens, as their punishments against the King. He might have thought it would kill(or drain) them, like every other person who enter the dungeon; but instead it didn't for whatever unseen reason.
Oric and his Siblings work to keep the OS under control, and by doing so have access to it's immense database on every single soul it encounters.

(Scanner connecting to the OS Soul Information Database)
The OS is intricately connected to every single Soul inside the Warrens, and a connection to the OS usually means certain Soul Depravity.

(The OS connection to an activated Soul Star; which constantly become deactivated)
The OS is a dangerous threat to the Warrens, which are built on the foundation which keeps the OS trapped within it's prison.The Void itself is a tool used to seperate the dangers of the OS from the Warrens, via preventing escape and offering a safeguard for the Sub-DLs. The OS itself is sentient, and wishes to escape it's prison; but to do so, it must bind itself to a life, which it already has:

CIIIIIIIIRRRRROOOOOOO IIIII AAAAMMMMM FFFFRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

The OS wishes to use Ciro to escape it's prison, but to do that it must destroy Oric. And when the Power went out in the lower sections of the Warrens, the OS guardians attempted to destroy the "intruder"

The area looks around for you.

Even the Angels themselves might be some of the Original Guards of the OS, and wish to overthrow Oric because of this. Maybe even reviving Riltia using their powers over the OS.

Just my thoughts on the Oversoul, and how it has an underlying plot to anything and everything we see or do.

Spoiler: Sending out an... (click to show/hide)

So, the OverSoul is running on a giant computer? Would that make it an OS OS? 

It has a computer attached to it at least.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Oricsoft Oversoul Operating System
 The OS OS OS

TWoOtA: More acronyms than the US Air Force!

[GreatWyrmGold]

Spoiler: OVERSOUL! (click to show/hide)

The Oversoul is the Ultimate Plot Narrative Control device; possession of the OS allows the user to quite literally accomplish any action they wish. Like a normal Soul, it has the power to do the unimaginable; only without limits. So powerful it requires a prison to be constructed around it.
The power of the OS attracts many people to go into the Warrens, but they all meet the same fate.



The Warrens themselves are located around(Or on, depending if the Warrens is) the OS. This is because the King of Haria trapped Oric and his Siblings inside the Warrens, as their punishments against the King. He might have thought it would kill(or drain) them, like every other person who enter the dungeon; but instead it didn't for whatever unseen reason.
Oric and his Siblings work to keep the OS under control, and by doing so have access to it's immense database on every single soul it encounters.

(Scanner connecting to the OS Soul Information Database)
The OS is intricately connected to every single Soul inside the Warrens, and a connection to the OS usually means certain Soul Depravity.

(The OS connection to an activated Soul Star; which constantly become deactivated)
The OS is a dangerous threat to the Warrens, which are built on the foundation which keeps the OS trapped within it's prison.The Void itself is a tool used to seperate the dangers of the OS from the Warrens, via preventing escape and offering a safeguard for the Sub-DLs. The OS itself is sentient, and wishes to escape it's prison; but to do so, it must bind itself to a life, which it already has:

CIIIIIIIIRRRRROOOOOOO IIIII AAAAMMMMM FFFFRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

The OS wishes to use Ciro to escape it's prison, but to do that it must destroy Oric. And when the Power went out in the lower sections of the Warrens, the OS guardians attempted to destroy the "intruder"

The area looks around for you.

Even the Angels themselves might be some of the Original Guards of the OS, and wish to overthrow Oric because of this. Maybe even reviving Riltia using their powers over the OS.

Just my thoughts on the Oversoul, and how it has an underlying plot to anything and everything we see or do.

Spoiler: Sending out an... (click to show/hide)

So, the OverSoul is running on a giant computer? Would that make it an OS OS? 

It has a computer attached to it at least.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Oricsoft Oversoul Operating System
 The OS OS OS

TWoOtA: More acronyms than the US Air Force!

I think the USAF has us beat, actually.

[Mego]

Spoiler: OVERSOUL! (click to show/hide)

The Oversoul is the Ultimate Plot Narrative Control device; possession of the OS allows the user to quite literally accomplish any action they wish. Like a normal Soul, it has the power to do the unimaginable; only without limits. So powerful it requires a prison to be constructed around it.
The power of the OS attracts many people to go into the Warrens, but they all meet the same fate.



The Warrens themselves are located around(Or on, depending if the Warrens is) the OS. This is because the King of Haria trapped Oric and his Siblings inside the Warrens, as their punishments against the King. He might have thought it would kill(or drain) them, like every other person who enter the dungeon; but instead it didn't for whatever unseen reason.
Oric and his Siblings work to keep the OS under control, and by doing so have access to it's immense database on every single soul it encounters.

(Scanner connecting to the OS Soul Information Database)
The OS is intricately connected to every single Soul inside the Warrens, and a connection to the OS usually means certain Soul Depravity.

(The OS connection to an activated Soul Star; which constantly become deactivated)
The OS is a dangerous threat to the Warrens, which are built on the foundation which keeps the OS trapped within it's prison.The Void itself is a tool used to seperate the dangers of the OS from the Warrens, via preventing escape and offering a safeguard for the Sub-DLs. The OS itself is sentient, and wishes to escape it's prison; but to do so, it must bind itself to a life, which it already has:

CIIIIIIIIRRRRROOOOOOO IIIII AAAAMMMMM FFFFRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

The OS wishes to use Ciro to escape it's prison, but to do that it must destroy Oric. And when the Power went out in the lower sections of the Warrens, the OS guardians attempted to destroy the "intruder"

The area looks around for you.

Even the Angels themselves might be some of the Original Guards of the OS, and wish to overthrow Oric because of this. Maybe even reviving Riltia using their powers over the OS.

Just my thoughts on the Oversoul, and how it has an underlying plot to anything and everything we see or do.

Spoiler: Sending out an... (click to show/hide)

So, the OverSoul is running on a giant computer? Would that make it an OS OS? 

It has a computer attached to it at least.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Oricsoft Oversoul Operating System
 The OS OS OS

TWoOtA: More acronyms than the US Air Force!

I think the USAF has us beat, actually.

Surely not. If so, we must remedy this. Institute Operation: MAttUSAF!

[ArchAIngel]

People, people. If you want to open something, and you have no key or upper body strength, what do you do? Shoot it. We have a SHOTGUN. A double-barrel SHOTGUN. And a ability that gives us +5 to rolls in combat, which probably includes smashing open a lock. So, SHOTGUN the lock off.

[Xanmyral]

Hm... I see no flaw in that plan at all. Well, besides the possible problems with destroying what's inside, but can't we try making a key first? Or, if that isn't possible, a lock-pick and something to give torque? I'd say that would be easier than making a specific key we don't have to compare to make sure it's right.

[GreatWyrmGold]

People, people. If you want to open something, and you have no key or upper body strength, what do you do? Shoot it. We have a SHOTGUN. A double-barrel SHOTGUN. And a ability that gives us +5 to rolls in combat, which probably includes smashing open a lock. So, SHOTGUN the lock off.

-1, we're literally as likely to damage anything inside as we are to open the chest. Probably more likely, actually--that lock looks tough.

[monk12]

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel

I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.

I base this on basically nothing.

[GreatWyrmGold]

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel
I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.
I base this on basically nothing.

So, according to you, Ciro is controlled by past versions of him/herself...and Oric listens in on these past-spirits?
Hm. Interesting.

[Xanmyral]

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel
I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.
I base this on basically nothing.

So, according to you, Ciro is controlled by past versions of him/herself...and Oric listens in on these past-spirits?
Hm. Interesting.

Wouldn't it be less that and more that he has a good memory? If we are Ciro's past lives, that is.

[Mego]

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel
I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.
I base this on basically nothing.

So, according to you, Ciro is controlled by past versions of him/herself...and Oric listens in on these past-spirits?
Hm. Interesting.

Wouldn't it be less that and more that he has a good memory? If we are Ciro's past lives, that is.

Given what we've suggested for Ciro so far, it's highly probable that a good number of Ciro's past lives died in DL1 due to swimming in lava, before ever meeting Oric.

[EmeraldWind]

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel
I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.
I base this on basically nothing.

So, according to you, Ciro is controlled by past versions of him/herself...and Oric listens in on these past-spirits?
Hm. Interesting.

Wouldn't it be less that and more that he has a good memory? If we are Ciro's past lives, that is.

Given what we've suggested for Ciro so far, it's highly probable that a good number of Ciro's past lives died in DL1 due to swimming in lava, before ever meeting Oric.

I initially proposed that idea during the Spirit Duel.

I noticed that Ciro began to break the fourth wall a few times after being Reborn. We also found out in a message that Ciro's previous lives were pouring into her head due to the Astral Influx being active. So it seemed that in a certain sense Ciro became aware of us and her previous lives at about the same time.

That said, Slimes need not be asexual. In Dragon Quest Monsters, Slimes can be male or female. Also Red Slimes AKA She-slimes are a separate "species" from regular Slimes (like Slog) and need not be female (I believe you can find this fact in DQ9 when you scan an enemy with a certain ability Edit: Checked no... It says She-slimes are a genetic mutation of a normal slime, but doesn't confirm gender one way or the other.). She-slimes were apparently named by adventures who could not tell a male Slime from a female Slime.

Granted some Slimes when strong enough can also produce asexually by splitting in half. Also Slimes like many monsters in the DQM world can reproduce with other monsters. They lay eggs like Pokémon in the first DQM, but the eggs aren't like Pokémon eggs where the egg is a baby of the female's species. Instead the monsters cross breed to form a different monster.

For example, say we have a Slime like Slog. And a member of the bird family called a Draky and we breed them. The resulting monster will be a Wing Slime.


I mention this because I imagine that its possible that we'll eventually find features that will allow either a breeding system, fusion system, or the like that may run on similar logic.

[monk12]

What? It got some support.

Oric literally remarked on our OOC discussion after the Polaris fight, we appear in the Soul battles, and Ciro often ends up discussing things with us (Mostly calling us crazy or stuff).
It's certain that we're an existing entity, somewhere in the warren's universe.

It occurs to me that perhaps we should wonder why Oric knows everything we say and do. Seriously, everything. He knew about the Ratings Star conversation we'd had just off-screen, and we intercepted that code in the Greens that knew more about Ciro remembering his past lives than Ciro did herself.

Note: It also explains why our theorycrafting gives boni. As we understand more, so does our "avatar/puppet" Ciro.

Wait, what OOC discussion did Oric comment on? The Ratings Star thing wasn't mentioned in the thread, it was just something Ciro mentioned because she's a RPG hero pastiche and Oric can either listen in on us or knows Ciro very very very well. I just take the moments of addressing the fourth wall to be Artistic License.

RE: WTF Players in Spirit Duel
I'm of the opinion that they are representatives of one of Ciro's past lives, called forth when the Astral Influx flares to fight once again. So basically weaponized Multiple Personality Disorder.
I base this on basically nothing.

So, according to you, Ciro is controlled by past versions of him/herself...and Oric listens in on these past-spirits?
Hm. Interesting.

Wouldn't it be less that and more that he has a good memory? If we are Ciro's past lives, that is.

Given what we've suggested for Ciro so far, it's highly probable that a good number of Ciro's past lives died in DL1 due to swimming in lava, before ever meeting Oric.

I initially proposed that idea during the Spirit Duel.

I noticed that Ciro began to break the fourth wall a few times after being Reborn. We also found out in a message that Ciro's previous lives were pouring into her head due to the Astral Influx being active. So it seemed that in a certain sense Ciro became aware of us and her previous lives at about the same time.

That said, Slimes need not be asexual. In Dragon Quest Monsters, Slimes can be male or female. Also Red Slimes AKA She-slimes are a separate "species" from regular Slimes (like Slog) and need not be female (I believe you can find this fact in DQ9 when you scan an enemy with a certain ability). She-slimes were apparently named by adventures who could not tell a male Slime from a female Slime.

Granted some Slimes when strong enough can also produce asexually by splitting in half. Also Slimes like many monsters in the DQM world can reproduce with other monsters. They lay eggs like Pokémon in the first DQM, but the eggs aren't like Pokémon eggs where the egg is a baby of the female's species. Instead the monsters cross breed to form a different monster.

For example, say we have a Slime like Slog. And a member of the bird family called a Draky and we breed them. The resulting monster will be a Wing Slime.


I mention this because I imagine that its possible that we'll eventually find features that will allow either a breeding system, fusion system, or the like that may run on similar logic.

Even before we were reborn, Al addressed the fourth wall at least once.



Which is why I draw a distinction between characters breaking the fourth wall to clarify actions, and the players in the Yaos Spirit battle.

Actually.

New Theory: Oric wants to supercharge the Astral Influx. My theory is that the Astral Influx is basically like a recording device; it tracks the narrative of whatever soul it is following. This power benefits its owner (Ciro) since it can be used to summon simulacrums of previous PoV characters, including Ciro's previous lives. Oric has designed the Warrens as an elaborate maze to guide Ciro through, giving him lots of life experiences, new friends to make PoV characters, blah blah blah. That's why the Astral Influx was in a chest in one of the first rooms of the Dungeon; Oric wanted us to find it. By killing Ciro every time he matures into a unique and interesting character, Oric is guaranteeing that the Astral Influx has grown at least one life richer, and he resets everything so Ciro can create another "new" life.

Why does he want to do this? Fuck if I know. Something to do with the Oversoul, or maybe the fact that the Astral Influx can follow multiple characters is why it gains Soul Charge more quickly, or something.

[javierpwn]

Theory:Every theorycrafting involves Souls, Soul Charge, Soul Stars, or the Oversoul.
No exceptions.